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The eMac...muahahahahaha!

Madan

Wed May 1 18:53:58 2002

The eMac seems like my next Mac.  Sure, the iDew looks sweet but the machine is a bit pricey.  Sure the old iFruits work great but they're underpowered.

The towers are sweet but they make the iDew look positively cheap.

Looks like the iMint is my next bet!


Mad.

fuX0ringM0r0n

Wed May 1 19:05:56 2002

Wut?  And you think the eMac isn't underpowered?  When I bought my Dual-800 I was like "this sucks compared to the present PCs...might as well go for the dualie so I won't feel stupid when they release the G5's in 3 months from now"...but then I started shitting my pants hearing rumors about the G5 and knowing that even my Dual-G4 would be obsolete if the G5 did come out.

 Well...turns out my purchase wasn't too bad at all seeing that the G5 might not ever come to fruition (that's almost a pun...but not quite...maybe I should have said iFruit[ion]).  

If Apple doesn't do something quick...not even the iApps and FCP3 and all those recently acquired companies will save it.

Of course, I'm over-generalizing the problem but, seriously, Apple's gotta do something about the speed problem.

(Edited by fuX0ringM0r0n at 12:17 pm on May 1, 2002)

Imitation Gruel

Wed May 1 19:15:20 2002

If they'd brought it out two years ago, I think it would have sold a lot more than I believe it will now.
fuX0ringM0r0n

Wed May 1 19:28:29 2002

Geee, really?
Madan

Wed May 1 20:05:51 2002

Wut?  And you think the eMac isn't underpowered?

Quite frankly? No.  I run Photoshop 4/6 on a 400 Blueberry iFruit with only 64 mb of RAM.  I play Q3A on the same machine.  A G4 700 == PIII 933(minimum) which is about the same as most budget machines for the educational market(all our HPs are PIII 866-1gig).

Plus, with 1/2 gig(1 gig expandable) of RAM AND a combo drive all for a "dimer" above 1500, isn't bad.  None of my machines has more than a quarter of a gig of RAM. A geForce 2 MX isn't great but it's better than what I've got.

When I bought my Dual-800 I was like "this sucks compared to the present PCs...might as well go for the dualie so I won't feel stupid when they release the G5's in 3 months from now"...but then I started shitting my pants hearing rumors about the G5 and knowing that even my Dual-G4 would be obsolete if the G5 did come out.

It hasn't and it won't.

Dual G4 machine is expensive, to be sure, but it's about as fast as a single 1.7+ Pentium/Athlon. That's not slow.


Well...turns out my purchase wasn't too bad at all seeing that the G5 might not ever come to fruition (that's almost a pun...but not quite...maybe I should have said iFruit[ion]).  

:)


If Apple doesn't do something quick...not even the iApps and FCP3 and all those recently acquired companies will save it.

I'm not so sure. Financially, they're doing better than Compaq and HP, despite Compaq and HP's huge comparable market share(which is why Apple's stock valuation, IN PART, is higher)...


Of course, I'm over-generalizing the problem but, seriously, Apple's gotta do something about the speed problem.

*shrug* You're talking to a guy that develops on a PIII 500/256/TNT2 and G3400/64/ATI.  And who owns a Compaq 933/128/TNT2 and Dell lappie 1gig/128/16

To me, the new iMint is *much* faster/stronger than any of the above. It'll be a nice upgrade for my iFruit.

Granted, I'm not buying it yet. Prolly in a year. I can still get some miles out of my iFruit. In a year, the iMint should be dust(in which case I get a tower or iDew) or it'll be a hit, in which case I'll own an improved iMint.

M.

Evil Merlin

Wed May 1 20:19:55 2002

*COUGH*

As fast as what?

My LAPTOP running on a 366mhz CPU (this is an old Compaq 7400) with 128 mb of RAM runs Quake III faster than my B&W at 350 with 620 mb of ram and a better video card.

(Edited by Evil Merlin at 1:23 pm on May 1, 2002)

HitScan

Wed May 1 20:26:23 2002

My LAPTOP running on a 366mhz CPU

Well, the hd speeds are probly the same. :D
Madan

Wed May 1 20:41:52 2002

Well, you know E_M, PEBCAK can be a debilitating syndrome.

You might want to look into a cure. ;)

M.

AllYorBaseRBelong2Us

Wed May 1 20:50:32 2002

Ph4@R the iMint Rebellion Guerilla!
fux0ringM0r0n

Wed May 1 21:11:57 2002

from Evil Merlin posted at 1:19 pm on May 1, 2002

*COUGH*

As fast as what?

My LAPTOP running on a 366mhz CPU (this is an old Compaq 7400) with 128 mb of RAM runs Quake III faster than my B&W at 350 with 620 mb of ram and a better video card.

(Edited by Evil Merlin at 1:23 pm on May 1, 2002)

Wow...I've got the exact same setup but the result was the complete opposite.

Stainless

Wed May 1 22:29:55 2002

Why won't apple sell an imac without a display ?

The cube was almost that - except that it cost as much as an ibook.

Just gut the imac and put in a pretty case.

DrPizza

Thu May 2 04:58:41 2002

The eMac should be released as a regular machine.  It's the only thing I'd consider buying -- a reasonable price and a proper monitor.  I haven't looked too closely, though; is there a downside to it?
AllYorBaseRBelong2Us

Thu May 2 09:08:18 2002

I haven't looked too closely, though; is there a downside to it?

It won't natively run WindowsXP

DuffMan

Thu May 2 09:26:32 2002

What, people spend $1500 on desktop computers still? How?
Madan

Thu May 2 11:42:17 2002

1.5k for half a gig of RAM, a combo drive and *all* the fixings?

Not too bad, I think.

I don't build my own.  As a result, I buy my hardware via the school sys and the cheapest PC I can get my hands on is that crummy Compaq I mentioned for 899.

For 1500(not even twice the price), I can get the same speed proc on the iMint. Four times as much RAM. A graphics card that is more than twice as good. A HD that is twice as capacious. Two FW, Two USB, ethernet AND modem(Compaq doesn't come wi it), as well as all the free iApps: iDVD, iTunes, iMovie, iPhoto.  Oh, and then there's that combo-drive thing...The 'Paq only comes with a regular CD drive.

The monitors are the same size and the iMint is twice as small and looks better.  


Only real advantage on the 'Paq is the price and the warranty. The warranty is longer but we all know what kind of experience I've had with my 'Paq, haven't we? I think I've bitched enough about it on here.
Compaq's service with me has SUCKED. The ultimate in assosity.

As for the price, the iMint is not even twice the price(75% more) but it's more than twice as "loaded".


And, let's be honest after all, we're on OSY. It looks MUCH better than a BEIGE tower. A nice black or aluminum ATX case might compete but they don't offer them in my channels and I'm not about to perform a transplant.
M.

HitScan

Thu May 2 13:44:27 2002

And, let's be honest after all, we're on OSY. It looks MUCH better than a BEIGE tower. A nice black or aluminum ATX case might compete but they don't offer them in my channels and I'm not about to perform a transplant.

Who the hell buys beige towers for a diy?
Here's my latest expenditure:
http://ahanix.com/noblesse.html
The middle one, Blue polished mirror. Kicks my ass. Only $90 with no PS.

Unffity-fucking-unf.

HitScan

Thu May 2 13:51:04 2002

Oh Mad, I misread you a bit. I thought you were talking about diys still, oops. Hehe.  But you can get a Noblesse case as a BTO for a whole system at a few places online.

mmmmm.

Stainless

Thu May 2 14:56:56 2002

The only downside I see to the imac and emac  (outside of things you can point on any mac) is the built-in monitor.

It'd be nice to pick up an imac style machine for less that I could use with my existing monitors.

fux0ringM0r0n

Fri May 3 02:17:26 2002

Yeah, well, there's always a downside to everything.  For example, I want to run OS X on a 2.4GHz P4.
Evil Merlin

Fri May 3 11:29:18 2002

And a shitty built-in monitor at that!
DeAthe

Fri May 3 16:57:26 2002

from HitScan posted at 6:44 am on May 2, 2002

And, let's be honest after all, we're on OSY. It looks MUCH better than a BEIGE tower. A nice black or aluminum ATX case might compete but they don't offer them in my channels and I'm not about to perform a transplant.

Who the hell buys beige towers for a diy?
Here's my latest expenditure:
http://ahanix.com/noblesse.html
The middle one, Blue polished mirror. Kicks my ass. Only $90 with no PS.

Unffity-fucking-unf.

fucking a Unf.. That's a sweet looking case. SuWeet! I'm going to have to get me one before I die.

fux0ringM0r0n

Fri May 3 22:25:11 2002

I'm sorry I have to do this...really I am...but I'll have to 'meh!' at the look of that case.
Socrates

Sat May 4 04:03:58 2002

DESIGNED FOR EDUCATION!!!
OK:
I'm trying to get computers for teaching severely handicapped kids.

So far, we have put together two machines, out of 4 that we found in the junk heap.  Ones a 166 the other a 200 mhz, 64 mb of ram, windows 98. Both Pentium based(Just realized, since I had no control over it, I haven't even bothered to check the processor type. 66 mhz bus).

Anyway, our school has a bunch of ifruits, and, about half of them work great.  The other half are not so great.

I get the distinct impression that the better taken care of computers work, and the others are not bothered with.

That said, the discussion over horsepower concerns are really questionable.  Both our cheap Pentium scavenger jobs,
and the ifruits are pretty much fine for what the computers are used for in education.

The 17 inch monitors are a great idea, view wise.  I wonder power wise, what the increase is going to be, to say a school that has 200 ifruits with 15 inch screens, moving up to 17's?

By the way, the tubes we use on the pcs are 13 inch junk monitors.

I guess what I am trying to get at is computer geek forums are pretty far away from the target area for the emac.

For what most of these computers do, I am not really sure the larger monitor is that big a deal.

Maybe in the tech lab, but, for desk space, etc. the 15 inch ifruits are a very good idea.  

A 15 inch fruit, usb floppy drive, and cables, fits nicely on a one person school desk.  The larger e fruit footprint might create a rather serious space problem...

My two cents.

gs

Madan

Sun May 5 01:06:44 2002

I'm really impressed with Apple's eMac and iMac.

My kids saw the commericial on MTV and after fighting, tooth and nail, about how "Macs suck", all the girls think the iMacs are "cute" and all the boys think the eMac is sweet.

Hn.

Go figure.

M.

Madan

Sun May 5 01:09:19 2002

That noblesse case is just a black case with some small bit of colored plastic. I'm not impressed. There are some japanese PC cases coming out now that ARE sweet however. I'll try to find a picture of one a friend of mine has.

It looks like black steel and glass and looks like a spike but the ATX fitting is perfect. I don't know how they did it.


M.