Thu Apr 11 00:52:28 2002

I have the RJ45 and I have PWS on my Compaq running.

What do I need to do? (A quick and thorough reply would be appreciated)

Thanks,

M.

Thu Apr 11 01:07:07 2002

1)Plug Them in

2)go to network properties on both machines
make sure TCP/IP is configured.  Make sure one of the machines has an address of something like 192.168.0.1 and the other have something like 192.168.0.2

3)both should have subnet mask set to 255.255.255.0

4)Make sure each computer has a unique name on the network.  have them be in the same workgroup.  This can be done in Win2000 by going ControlPanel->System->Network ID->Properties.

I'm pretty foggy on the details.  try this, someone else can correct my wrongability :)

Thu Apr 11 01:12:44 2002

M.

Thu Apr 11 01:15:33 2002

Thu Apr 11 01:54:48 2002

Give me a clue! :)

M.

Thu Apr 11 02:35:39 2002

First of all, what cable are you using to connect these computers?  I ask because the typical connection is an RJ45 ethernet connector (looks like a large phone jack), and you can't use a standard ethernet cable to connect the two directly.  Your options here are (a) a hub/switch and two ethernet cables; or (b) an ethernet crossover cable to connect to the 'puters directly.

Physical connection aside, you need to configure the network config on each computer so that they can communicate.  This is the TCP/IP configuration that AYB specified.  (BTW, the network mask in this instance won't make a difference if it's set to 255.255.255.0 or 255.255.0.0 -- you only have two computers, it's irrelevant.)

Microsoft also has a protocol called NetBEUI which was made to simplify small network setups, but I'm sure that TCP/IP is already installed on both PCs and NetBEUI might not be.

Once the hardware and software is set up properly, you have to make sure that file sharing is enabled.  Win2K has this enabled by default; you may need to enable this on the 98 machine.

Thu Apr 11 02:39:05 2002

M.

Thu Apr 11 02:41:22 2002

You can turn on Internet Connection Sharing in the Sharing properties of the network card on your Win2k box, and surf from both at the same time.  That's what I do with my iBook and PC, only I need two network cards in my PC, one for the cable "modem", one for connecting to the iBook.  

Thu Apr 11 02:45:17 2002

There are several ways to browse another computer over a network.  The first place people go to is the Network Neoghborhood icon on the desktop.  While this is the 'simple' method, I don't rely on it personally when it comes to peer-to-peer networks.

Another way to see another computer is by the UNC (Universal Naming Convention) path, which is described like this:
\\computername\sharename
or even just
\\computername

So for example, if your Win2K box is named "August" and the Win98 box is named "March" then you can type this to view the available shared resources on the other computer.  If you're on Win2K machine, type \\March and a Run prompt or in Windows Explorer to see what's shared on the Win98 machine.  This will show shared printers as well as folders, which you can then double-click to access.

If there's a shared folder named 'graphics' on the Win98 machine, then you could type \\March\graphics to open that shared folder directly.  You can then drag-n-drop over the network.

Thu Apr 11 02:47:13 2002

from Madan posted at 10:39 pm on April 10, 2002

Where can I get the cable you mentioned? I just grabbed a gray Cat5? What is it called exactly?

A CAT5 Crossover cable is what you'd need to ask for.  A standard CAT5 ethernet cable, which is most likely what you grabbed, won't let you connect two computers directly.

Thu Apr 11 02:51:03 2002

If things don't go right, give us as much detail as you can and we'll see what can be done.  

Thu Apr 11 02:53:10 2002

from Madan posted at 9:12 pm on April 10, 2002

Uhm, I'm not networking bigwig but shouldn't it be 255.255.0.0 ?

Technically, it "should be" 255.255.255.0 if you're using private IP addresses in the 192.168.x.y range, but with only two computers in place it won't make a difference.

Thu Apr 11 12:36:02 2002

M.

Mon Apr 15 11:51:12 2002

I can now see both "Win9x"(on the 2k box) and "Win2kop"(on the 98 box). However, I can't move anything into the folders. They seem to be locked out. Is there some kind of sharing protocol I have to set for each one? If so, where do I find such a protocol?

Thanks,

Mad.

(Edited by Madan at 4:52 am on April 15, 2002)

Mon Apr 15 13:09:04 2002

Technically, it "should be" 255.255.255.0 if you're using private IP addresses in the 192.168.x.y range, but with only two computers in place it won't make a difference.

Ahh, good to know I have been correct on my subnetting for private IP's for as long as I've been setting up networks. :)

Mon Apr 15 13:33:10 2002

from Madan posted at 7:51 am on April 15, 2002
I can now see both "Win9x"(on the 2k box) and "Win2kop"(on the 98 box). However, I can't move anything into the folders. They seem to be locked out. Is there some kind of sharing protocol I have to set for each one? If so, where do I find such a protocol?

Can't move anything in both directions, or just one?

If you can't copy files from 98 to 2K, this is because of 2K's security.  You'd need to enable the Guest account on the 2K box, or use your logon credentials when accessing from the 98 box.  (FYI: The Guest account in 2K is disabled by default for security.)  Additionally, both 2K and 98 can have user-based restrictions on the shares, so you have to note how those are enabled; by default, new shares are open to 'everyone' but you can restrict them.

Please explain what you're doing to produce the problem, and please describe the problem in detail (i.e. error messages).  I'd like to know exactly what's happening so's I can form an appropriate response.

Mon Apr 15 13:38:12 2002

Thanks Harb.

M.

(Edited by Madan at 7:08 am on April 15, 2002)

Mon Apr 15 13:43:35 2002

from Madan posted at 9:38 am on April 15, 2002

I'll head home and take at it later.

Thanks Har.

M.

No problem.  And please, I prefer Harb. ;)

Mon Apr 15 23:38:06 2002

I go to the Network Neighborhood on the Compaq desktop running 98 and I can see the machine's icon: Win9x and an icon for the 2k machine: Win2kop.

I can access the Win9x icon on the desktop but when I try to drag a file in..it gives me the circle with the bar through it indicating I can't copy to the file. Same machine. WTF?

Then, I try to open the 2k machine icon by double clicking it and it tells me:

\\win2kop is not accessible.
No permission to access resource.

"OK button"

It gives me that every time except for once, the first time, when it asked me to enter a network password. Uhm, I entered the Windows password for the desktop. It didn't work. I entered the password for the 2k laptop and it didn't work.

???

Conversely, on the 2k machine I can view both the 9x and 2kop icons in the Network Places and I can open both but I can't drag anything into either because it gives me the little circle with the bar through it indicating that it's not a valid copy location.

That's it.

Maybe you can figure it out.

:)

M.

Mon Apr 15 23:40:36 2002

M.

Tue Apr 16 02:38:12 2002

(It sounds like you're trying to drag a file onto the other computer's icon -- that's not a legal move, which is why you're getting the "Not" symbol when you try to do so.  Think about what's underneath it: You don't copy files to a computer, you copy files to a directory (or folder, if you wish).  If you tried to drop a file onto the "computer" (i.e. icon in Network Neighborhood), where's it supposed to end up?)

To share a folder or drive, right-click its icon and select Sharing from the menu that appears.  The name of the share will default to the name of the folder/drive, but you can name it something else if you want.  Once a share is created, it will be viewed in Network Neighborhood.

Now, accessing something on the 2K side requires a username/password, as you encountered.  This username/pw is one that is specific to the 2K machine itself -- the 98 box won't know about that name because these are per-computer settings.  If you logon to the 2K box using the name MADAN with password WHATEVER, then that's the info you'd enter when prompted.  You could also use ADMINISTRATOR with whatever password it has; the Administrator account is always present on a 2K machine and cannot be deleted.  As you found out, the 98 side doesn't ask for a user/pw because it has shit all for security.  (You CAN restrict shares so that logon is required, but that's off by default -- NT/2K is the opposite.)

Hope this helps.

Tue Apr 16 02:40:07 2002

Mon Apr 29 13:02:38 2002

M.

Mon Apr 29 15:21:27 2002

It was the most boring book ever written by humankind.

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Sun May 5 00:45:32 2002

postcount++

Jus' keepin' 'dis on my radar, buuuuuuudddies.

M.

Thu May 9 21:03:51 2002

M.

Fri May 10 01:53:51 2002

;)

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Sun May 12 17:59:38 2002

Bump.

M.

Sun May 12 20:25:08 2002

Just do it already.

Mon May 13 11:50:33 2002

Case in point: This weekend, I had to arrive at the school at 3 AM SAT. morning. We left at 4 and spent the day at Disney.  Since I couldn't sleep on the bus(watching and talking with the kids), I arrived at Disney, spent the day there until 6 PM, left for Miami and thusly arrived at 10 PM.  Some parents didn't pick up their kids until 12:30 PM(some didn't pick them up at ALL :(  ), I didn't get home until 1 AM SUN. morning and didn't hit the sack until 1.5.  I didn't wake up on SUN. until approx. 1 PM and I had to spend the Mothers' Day with my, uhm, mother until 8 PM so...

Well, YOU get the idea. I work today until 9 PM but I'll see if I can diddle with my two machines when I get home.

L8ters,

M.

Mon May 13 12:51:53 2002

Mon May 13 13:36:17 2002

Mon May 13 18:45:50 2002

Besides, in all seriousness, I think you're not considering the fact that I'm at SCHOOL. I can't test a machine with no access to the web, sitting in my house, from school!

M.

Mon May 13 19:52:41 2002

from Madan posted at 2:45 pm on May 13, 2002

Besides, in all seriousness, I think you're not considering the fact that I'm at SCHOOL. I can't test a machine with no access to the web, sitting in my house, from school!

No, and I realize that people usually post from work during the day.  But unless you're not going home at night (presumably where the networked-computers-in-question reside), then you don't have too much of an excuse, no? :p ;)

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M.

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