Tue Mar 5 23:05:58 2002
Tue Mar 5 23:13:15 2002
:)
Tue Mar 5 23:34:32 2002
Wed Mar 6 00:43:04 2002
Why is this lame duck suddenly news?
M.
Wed Mar 6 01:13:55 2002
Venture is zealous, but right quite often, I find.
Wed Mar 6 01:56:40 2002
So you see, we don't tend to pick on wintrolls because we don't use the platform they're talking about, and thus, don't always know when to call "bullshit! stop being a lame ass troll." Do note however, that that doesn't mean we agree with everything they say. :)
Wed Mar 6 02:34:37 2002
Wed Mar 6 05:09:21 2002
I don't see why Msoft can't explain it easily to the judges:
"We can't remove the explorer services because our OS and other apps uses it. However we would be willing to remove Internet Explorer the browser and sell windows browserless to the OEM for them to choose what the want as a browser."
Makes sense no?
It should be that simple unless Msoft is being vauge to the courts about the browser by implying that removing iexplorer would break the OS?
Either way i don't see why its so difficult to understand what Paolo was saying and even more so why msoft and the courts have a difficult time on at least reaching a middleground on this point as well.
* Sell a seperate version of windows that does not have Internet Explorer while allowing Windows to maintain its html rendering services.
Seems fair enough me thinks.
Then again this is the American political and justice system we are talking about.... :rolleyes:
Wed Mar 6 06:37:42 2002
Now put yourself in MS's pants (whoops :)). There is the judge that sleeps during the trial. There are this attorneys arguing against you to be an evil corporation while being on the payroll of other (obviously good) corporations. You'd get annoyed, I bet. So when they say, with a booming grave voice, "remove all traces of IE from Windows" you'd take them literally. Remove iexplore.exe, mshtml.dll, shdocvw.dll... hey, what's this wininet.dll crap? Shush, go away!
There. IE is no more. Happy?
But... Netscape, AIM, RealPlayer don't work without wininet.dll. Quicken doesn't work without mshtml.dll. Why can't I get to the help files?
Anybody who screams about removing IE from Windows should be very careful, because they could get what they asked.
Wed Mar 6 06:41:41 2002
I don't deservet eh shit either.
Wed Mar 6 06:42:52 2002
from OscarWilde posted at 9:09 pm on Mar. 5, 2002
i'd have to agree. What an idiot. What Paolo says makes sense.
I don't see why Msoft can't explain it easily to the judges:
"We can't remove the explorer services because our OS and other apps uses it. However we would be willing to remove Internet Explorer the browser and sell windows browserless to the OEM for them to choose what the want as a browser."
Makes sense no?
It should be that simple unless Msoft is being vauge to the courts about the browser by implying that removing iexplorer would break the OS?
* Sell a seperate version of windows that does not have Internet Explorer while allowing Windows to maintain its html rendering services.Seems fair enough me thinks.
Then again this is the American political and justice system we are talking about.... :rolleyes:
Wed Mar 6 07:31:48 2002
Wed Mar 6 07:33:30 2002
Wed Mar 6 08:22:48 2002
I just wasted 10 minutes of my life reading that utter crap. What a tard...
Wed Mar 6 14:55:07 2002
from DeAthe posted at 2:33 am on Mar. 6, 2002
Speaking of, where in the hell did the Jets go again anyway?
Was it Colorado?
Conversely, remember when the Flames were in Atlanta? ;) 'course, that's the only NHL time I can recall that left the US for Canada.
Can we talk about the Montreal Expos instead? :biggrin:
Wed Mar 6 14:55:47 2002
Wed Mar 6 20:51:14 2002
Wed Mar 6 22:14:44 2002
I think they moved as one of the California teams.. I think.
Thu Mar 7 01:35:00 2002
Thu Mar 7 03:32:51 2002
Thu Mar 7 05:23:55 2002
I really should pay more attention to things.
Thu Mar 7 08:34:38 2002
Thu Mar 7 12:33:09 2002
Makes sense no?
Sorry, no. The browser "war" is dead. There's no point in hurting the customer now by removing the browser from the OS. That's like giving a dead cancer victim chemotherapy in the coffin. It doesn't help anyone.
Maybe Microsoft *should* be broken into pieces. Why? Because I hate MS? No. Because I want them to continue to kick ass. Where are they right now, figurativey speaking? They have a big target painted on their forehead and that's a *major* public relations issue. Even when they're not *truly* messing up, the media hammers them anyways. Plus, they're desperately(obvious) trying to inject themselves into other markets, in the hopes of prolonging their dominance and it isn't *really* happening.
I just got .NET-Step to Master and it's a great book and .NET is clever but ppl won't adopt it to the degree necessary for it to become standard. Why? Because MS has done shady things in the past that force the public to consider it with suspicion.
XBox? XBox hasn't been able to wrest away any significant market share from PSII, much to the hyper-Winlots chagrin, despite being technically superior to the Sony product in every way. BTW, on a side note, I think it was colossally stupid for MS to not make their XBox games compatible with PC. If they had, I'd be buying XBox games and, to be sure, ppl would still be using an MS product to play: MS Windows. I'm *not* getting an XBox just so I can play Halo and Wreckless. But whatever.
MS Win XP has sold *very* well but most of the sales are tied to OEM and the OS hasn't received the accolades the company was hoping for, despite some tight .NET integration, GDI+ and improved interoperability between software.
MS, quite frankly, is stuck in a minor rut. Now, while I'm not sure that a fractured MS would perform any better, it *would* help it become an "underdog" and improve its image. Do they need image? I mean, don' t they have more money than God? Perhaps, perhaps not.
In any event, despite their vilification at the hands of idiots for misrepresented "wrong-doings", MS *has* perpetrated some *very* shady deals. The monopolization of software in the OEM market is just the beginning.
The IE/Netscape incident is another.
Their issues with hacking and Passport, and their reluctance to truthfully report the implications of the events is another...
MS SHOULD pay. But how? How should they pay in order to remain equitable to the victims of its shady tactics, the *consumers* AND oft-malrepresented MS itself?
That, I don't know.
M.
(Edited by Madan at 4:35 am on Mar. 7, 2002)
Thu Mar 7 18:56:18 2002
Thu Mar 7 20:22:45 2002
from Robocop Q Einstein posted at 1:56 pm on Mar. 7, 2002
My cousin played for the Hurricanes.
Who was he?
Not that I'd particularly recall his name unless he was like a star or something, but it'd be interesting to know nonetheless.
Thu Mar 7 22:50:35 2002
Then he went to Germany to play, didn't get paid, so he quit hockey and is in grad school now.
Defenseman.
Thu Mar 7 23:36:05 2002
I'll go pick up a copy of Who's Who in Hockey from few years back.