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Even that Dell kid has a woman

AllYorBaseRBelong2Us

Mon Feb 11 23:37:51 2002

Seen the latest commercial.

:)

AllYorBaseRBelong2Us

Mon Feb 11 23:38:49 2002

New Dell slogan,

"Dude, I'm getting some Nookie: :)

Madan

Mon Feb 11 23:59:05 2002

"Dude, my Dell's jealous and shot my bitch a 650,000 volt charge!"

M.

Imitation Gruel

Tue Feb 12 00:02:31 2002

"Dude, even my mom got a Dell!"

It's worked without incident for several months now.

Harbinger

Tue Feb 12 15:18:48 2002

from AllYorBaseRBelong2Us posted at 6:38 pm on Feb. 11, 2002

New Dell slogan,

"Dude, I'm getting some Nookie" :)

Umm..... [color=red]INDEED![/color]

AllYorBaseRBelong2Us

Sun Feb 17 06:35:30 2002

Here it is

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(Edited by AllYorBaseRBelong2Us at 12:36 am on Feb. 17, 2002)

Imitation Gruel

Sun Feb 17 15:29:20 2002

Hmmm...she has a decent face and nice hair.

I don't know why people say those Dell commercials are so annoying; I've seen them quite a few times and they don't strike me as any more or less annoying than any other commercial. Personally I find commercials with Titney Spheres a lot more annoying because she's such a skank bitch.

AllYorBaseRBelong2Us

Sun Feb 17 15:32:47 2002

Why must you say such things about AYB's Cousin? :(
Imitation Gruel

Sun Feb 17 18:25:51 2002

Why must you say such things about AYB's Cousin?

Because I find them to be true. She dresses like a harlot, wears far too much makeup, dances and acts like a stripper for her videos, and just generally presents the visage of someone who's incredibly easy.

When I first bought her debut album in I believe December of 1998, before the single "...baby one more time" really broke, I thought she was a cute girl, on the album cover; and she was, basically indisputably. Now with the way she dresses, sings, and acts...it's too much. As far as I'm concerned she's prostituted herself, and I have no respect for that.

AllYorBaseRBelong2Us

Sun Feb 17 20:34:15 2002

:(
Harbinger

Sun Feb 17 21:29:18 2002

Well, she hasn't prostituted herself with ME yet.. :(
DuffMan

Mon Feb 18 05:47:19 2002

Like 90% of female pop artists are prostituting themselves in some way or annother. It sucks.
OscarWilde

Mon Feb 18 08:48:17 2002

Its all marketing. Who cares.

Besides all the really good female singers are not the ones you hear or see on the popular commercial radio/tv. Granted there are exceptions.

I don't think Britney Spears does anything above and beyond what the previous pop 'diva's' ever did. I don't consider Britney Spears a diva but by today's medicore standards she might as well be.

Also I think its a double standard. Even the popular male singers are no better. Look at the current Latino superstars. They are just as bad only because its easier to pimp a women then men we immediately judge the women.

Women can and always dress sexier then men. Its the nature of the female body plus the nature of our homophobic media.

We see more women bare it all but when rarely do we see a man do it equally, and when he does its a big deal. I remember Basic Instinct and the hoop-la surrounding Michael Douglas showing a bit of his penis. :rolleyes:

The day stupid conservative homophobic oil tycoons that run your country die the better American Media might actually be IMO.

Then again its not the old people but also a very large percentage of the young male population that is sexually immature.

I remember at college when some girls would out of humor bust out male pornography all the guys were disguested and made a big ruckuss. Stupid ass mother fuckers and morons. I never saw the big deal about male porn. I can look at it and I don't react in anyway other then I become more aware of my own sexuality, i.e. as in I realise what the man's body can look like sexually. I think its more empowering because you are more asserted by who you are.

Women can look at female porn, and yes some don't like it, but none of them react the way most men do.

Its just the de facto behaviour of our society.

Seriously, you can judge your own sexual maturity by how you react to male porn. If you can't look at it, or in some way feel uncomfortable then your sexual maturity is non-existent. This is all academic by the way.

Anyway the point of all this comes down to the way you react to how sex is sold and used in the media.

Britney Spears is no more a whore then a nun is. Not saying she isn't but we simply cannont judge by appereances alone. Otherwise how can you call your self a member of an advanced species if you're limited to impulse reactions?

DuffMan

Mon Feb 18 10:41:23 2002

I don't think Britney Spears does anything above and beyond what the previous pop 'diva's' ever did. I don't consider Britney Spears a diva but by today's medicore standards she might as well be.

I kinda like the old motown divas. I think they were excellent song writers, something you can't say about any pop stars today.

Also I think its a double standard. Even the popular male singers are no better. Look at the current Latino superstars. They are just as bad only because its easier to pimp a women then men we immediately judge the women.

Well not to me, i judge a male popstar the same way I would judge a female popstar. I mean I always thought  R Kelly must of been a sick bastard for the stuff he sang about, and now look whats come out.

Women can and always dress sexier then men. Its the nature of the female body plus the nature of our homophobic media.

I think it has less to do with homophobia, and more to do with higher male sex drive, and men's higher visual approach towards sex.

The day stupid conservative homophobic oil tycoons that run your country die the better American Media might actually be IMO.

Haha, that's funny. But the people who run the country have basically no influence over the media.

Women can look at female porn, and yes some don't like it, but none of them react the way most men do.

Hmm, I think there's a certain truth in that. One girl I know  was even sort of into it.

Seriously, you can judge your own sexual maturity by how you react to male porn. If you can't look at it, or in some way feel uncomfortable then your sexual maturity is non-existent. This is all academic by the way.

I guess I must be sexually immature then. Define sexual maturity. I don't think openness and maturaty are neccessarily the same thing.
AllYorBaseRBelong2Us

Mon Feb 18 15:58:01 2002

I guess I must be sexually immature then. Define sexual maturity. I don't think openness and maturaty are neccessarily the same thing.

AYB doesn't look at male pr0n (makes him shudder!), so perhaps we will never know about The Mighty AYB :)

OscarWilde

Tue Feb 19 06:14:52 2002

I don't think Britney Spears does anything above and beyond what the previous pop 'diva's' ever did. I don't consider Britney Spears a diva but by today's medicore standards she might as well be.

I kinda like the old motown divas. I think they were excellent song writers, something you can't say about any pop stars today

Thats my point. The diva's of yester-year were GREAT!!! however by today's standards Diva's are teh suck!

Well not to me, i judge a male popstar the same way I would judge a female popstar. I mean I always thought  R Kelly must of been a sick bastard for the stuff he sang about, and now look whats come out.

Well i wasn't talking about you. I meant that for anyone who harshly criticises B.Spears must also be consistent at least with all the other pop singers out there including teh male counterparts.

Women can and always dress sexier then men. Its the nature of the female body plus the nature of our homophobic media.

I think it has less to do with homophobia, and more to do with higher male sex drive, and men's higher visual approach towards sex.



Now you're showing your age. Women have a higher sex drive then men. Most men on average fuck at most twice a night while most women on avg. want more then just two screws and a twist. ;)
Seriously though, women do have the greater sex drive. Women are generally more dirty then men too. However its a generalisation at best. Sex drive isn't really specific to men or women.
As for visual sexual appeal being higher in men, i don't buy that either. We'd prefer less clothes and more skin. We have much simpler sense of visual stimulation. A women has a far more comlex sexual sense then men do. Besides do you really think women dress for men? Ho ho ho! Most women, wether they are aware or not, actually dress for other women.

The day stupid conservative homophobic oil tycoons that run your country die the better American Media might actually be IMO.

Haha, that's funny. But the people who run the country have basically no influence over the media.

Well I don't know what the truth really is, but just because they don't have a hand in it directly don't mean their influence is not exerted in someway.

Women can look at female porn, and yes some don't like it, but none of them react the way most men do.

Hmm, I think there's a certain truth in that. One girl I know  was even sort of into it.

You only know one girl thats into it? :eek: I know so many girls that are into it, infact i know a lot more girls that buy porn for their boyfriends and enjoy watching it with them. Porn is more visually stimulating to women then it is to men.

I guess I must be sexually immature then.

So? Did ya know that only ~10% of the population is at the highest stage of intellectual/mental maturity? Meanwhile most people are stuck at a lower level of maturity for the rest of their lives? Some mature fully very young and some in their later years, none the less maturity is not an ADULT thing. Its a state of self.
Regarding sexual maturity, iirc, the highest state is in smaller percentage of the population.

Define sexual maturity. I don't think openness and maturaty are neccessarily the same thing.

Lets break it down: How do you define maturity? Not in the way a dictionary would but in a more practical way.

Your maturity is dictated by the way you re-act to circumstances or specific situations.

Its the same with sexual maturity. It comes down to the way you react and handle discussions or material of a sexual nature. Hence why i said, for a guy to know his level of sexual maturity the best is too look at 'gay' porn. The way you react determines you maturity. It all makes sense if you took a minute to think about it (another facet of maturity). What is 'gay' porn? Naked men with some in an arroused state? So? How does a naked man with an errection make anyone 'shudder' or feel vile? Its either you're turned on or just,'meh, it don't do nothing for me.' Maturity is also a great sense of self, looking at naked men should actually make you more aware of your self sexually. It can empower you and not make you a homosexual.

Anyway, i'm sure most of this is a waste of my time.

I don't care if you shudder or disagree with me. Its your self awareness, how well you know your self and how comfortable you are that puts you at certain level. Besides don't come here thinking that you're perfect or already at some higher level just because you know a few things here and there. Equally don't feel like you're lesser if you're not at that level. Anybody can be mature its just a matter of being aware of the next level and just reaching it. Don't go aiming for it, just know that its there and reflect on the way you react to situations in the past and consider how you might react differently in the future if you have the strength to do so.

I'm just very lucky that I was surrounded by some very unique and clever individuals in my life that helped me become more aware of my self. Plus i'm also fortunate that my college professors for the most part were not only great teachers but mentors outside of class whom i could have these discussions with.

I know i came of very preechy here and many people don't like being told what they should do, but i hope what i said can be taken as a sincere and objective opinion rather then a philosophy that should be relegated to a matter of personal taste.

As i've always said before: The weight of the entire human race is carried forward by a small number of individuals. You're either part of the inertia that holds back or the force that pushes forward.

:)

Jeremy Reimer

Tue Feb 19 06:58:34 2002

OW, I like your posts.  Very worthwhile reading.

OscarWilde

Tue Feb 19 07:10:54 2002

you serious or being sarcastic?

I'm assuming at your age and intelligence that all i wrote above is second nature to you where as for me its just stuff i'm realising as i'm still young.
:)

Jeremy Reimer

Tue Feb 19 07:12:25 2002

No, I'm serious.  You don't need to have aged a certain number of years to have wisdom.  (I was often told I was very wise, even when I was quite young-- I think as I get older, I get less so!)

No, OW, I like your posts because they show insight.  It's nice to see.  

It's not all "old hat" stuff for me either-- I've thought a lot about these things, but someone else always brings a new perspective, if they think and write carefully, which you do.

OscarWilde

Tue Feb 19 07:20:40 2002

Well thank you, that means a lot ot me.

I agree that wisdom is not the domain of the old equally as foolishness is not the playground of the youth.

My english professor would always tell me that he was sure that my soul was a thousand years old. I'm just fotunate to come from a very liberal and philosophically strong family. Plus the people i've met through out my life have been a great insight into life it self. So i'm extremely lucky more then anything else. Oh and it helps being well travelled at a young age too!

:)

DuffMan

Tue Feb 19 11:14:57 2002

Now you're showing your age. Women have a higher sex drive then men.

I, and modern medicine strongly disagree with you.

Most men on average fuck at most twice a night while most women on avg. want more then just two screws and a twist. ;)

This has nothing to do with sex drive and everything to do with the different physiology in sex between men and women. Men exert much more physical energy durring an orgasm. Male and female orgasims are completely different.

Seriously though, women do have the greater sex drive. Women are generally more dirty then men too.
Maybe the women you know! :cheesy:

However its a generalisation at best. Sex drive isn't really specific to men or women.

Men tend to think about sex more, and have stronger, less controlable urges towards it. You could say it might be that men have less self control when it comes to sex but it's basically the same thing. Whatever revisionist feminism says, it's a medical fact that men's sex drives are stronger.

As for visual sexual appeal being higher in men, i don't buy that either. We'd prefer less clothes and more skin.

Exactly, you have supported my original statement that the reason their are more scantily clad women in media is due to the differeneces in men and women's taste.

We have much simpler sense of visual stimulation. A women has a far more comlex sexual sense then men do.

Yes which is why our sense of stimulation can be accessed by a 30 seccond commercial, while a women's can be be accessed by a book or a full length motion picture, something that does not work as well for men.

Besides do you really think women dress for men? Ho ho ho! Most women, wether they are aware or not, actually dress for other women.

Well duuuuuhuuh!

Well I don't know what the truth really is, but just because they don't have a hand in it directly don't mean their influence is not exerted in someway.

The media is mostly about selling a product. Appealing to views that aren't held by your mainsteam audience but are held by a politician does little to sell a product.

You only know one girl thats into it? :eek: I know so many girls that are into it, infact i know a lot more girls that buy porn for their boyfriends and enjoy watching it with them. Porn is more visually stimulating to women then it is to men.

Ha! Not even gonna go there.


So? Did ya know that only ~10% of the population is at the highest stage of intellectual/mental maturity? Meanwhile most people are stuck at a lower level of maturity for the rest of their lives? Some mature fully very young and some in their later years, none the less maturity is not an ADULT thing. Its a state of self.
Regarding sexual maturity, iirc, the highest state is in smaller percentage of the population.

Lets break it down: How do you define maturity? Not in the way a dictionary would but in a more practical way.

Your maturity is dictated by the way you re-act to circumstances or specific situations.

Its the same with sexual maturity. It comes down to the way you react and handle discussions or material of a sexual nature. Hence why i said, for a guy to know his level of sexual maturity the best is too look at 'gay' porn. The way you react determines you maturity. It all makes sense if you took a minute to think about it (another facet of maturity). What is 'gay' porn? Naked men with some in an arroused state? So? How does a naked man with an errection make anyone 'shudder' or feel vile? Its either you're turned on or just,'meh, it don't do nothing for me.' Maturity is also a great sense of self, looking at naked men should actually make you more aware of your self sexually. It can empower you and not make you a homosexual.


Your definition only sought to circularly prove your assertion, and little to clarify your point! You've been spending too much time on the battlefront, my friend.

Anyway, i'm sure most of this is a waste of my time.

Hmm, I don't think so. It's somewhat interesting to argue these differing points of view, at least to me anyways.

I don't care if you shudder or disagree with me. Its your self awareness, how well you know your self and how comfortable you are that puts you at certain level. Besides don't come here thinking that you're perfect or already at some higher level just because you know a few things here and there. Equally don't feel like you're lesser if you're not at that level. Anybody can be mature its just a matter of being aware of the next level and just reaching it. Don't go aiming for it, just know that its there and reflect on the way you react to situations in the past and consider how you might react differently in the future if you have the strength to do so.

Um, I'll keep that in mind.

I'm just very lucky that I was surrounded by some very unique and clever individuals in my life that helped me become more aware of my self.

Did they help you become aware of your self, or did they help to shape your self into a self that you were more comfortable with than your previous self?

Plus i'm also fortunate that my college professors for the most part were not only great teachers but mentors outside of class whom i could have these discussions with.

I've only known one teacher like that :(

I know i came of very preechy here and many people don't like being told what they should do, but i hope what i said can be taken as a sincere and objective opinion rather then a philosophy that should be relegated to a matter of personal taste.

Ehhh, nope. I think it is a matter of  personal taste.

As i've always said before: The weight of the entire human race is carried forward by a small number of individuals. You're either part of the inertia that holds back or the force that pushes forward.

I'm trying to get it to spin along its axis of acceleration, and thereby make everyone dizzy. :cheesy:

:)

:cheesy: I really like this smiley.
OscarWilde

Tue Feb 19 12:18:11 2002

I, and modern medicine strongly disagree with you.

Interesting.. we shall see...

This has nothing to do with sex drive and everything to do with the different physiology in sex between men and women. Men exert much more physical energy durring an orgasm. Male and female orgasims are completely different.

Me wasn't talking about orgamsims either. Me was actually talking about sex drive too.
Second what do you mean men exert more physical energy? How was this result taken? Is it because more often then not men have to do more work?

Maybe the women you know!

Ask the women you know. Then agian I'm surrounded by women in their early to late 20's so that might be a factor.

Men tend to think about sex more,

That is a statistically wrong. Women think about sex more then men. Then again there were statistics that once suggested that teenage boys thought about sex a lot. Then again stats prove that there is no absolute ratio to who thinks about sex a lot more.

and have stronger, less controlable urges towards it. You could say it might be that men have less self control when it comes to sex but it's basically the same thing.

Now does anyone measure sexual urges as a value? And your logic is wrong, try again:
For example if I say the resistance against sex urge is 5 and by chance the sex urge strength is 6, then we have a total of '1' sex urge left.
Now we could say resistance against urges are 20 and sex urge strength is 21, the total that is again 1.
This is a silly example, but it comes down to the fact that you can't logically say that if you can't resist then it is therefore fact that the urges are stronger then some one else who can resist thus their urges are weak. Its a possiblity but no absolute.

Whatever revisionist feminism says, it's a medical fact that men's sex drives are stronger.

Sorry but i have to snort at this assertion. Did ya know that the science community knows less about the details of the vagina then the penis? This is FACT! There is more text available about the penis, more research into the penis, and simply more detail about the penis. The vagia has sadly been overshadowed by the penis in the medical community. You're talking about medical fact as if it were absolute, especially for something we think should be obviously well known. Don't take things for granted.
Research into sexual behaviour is also very limited because its not easy to quantify.
And since you had to bring up the BF, link please to this supposed facts from objective non machoistic community?

Exactly, you have supported my original statement that the reason their are more scantily clad women in media is due to the differeneces in men and women's taste.

No, the reason there are more scantily clad women in the media is because the a huge part of that industry is owned by men, controlled by men and bought by men.

Yes which is why our sense of stimulation can be accessed by a 30 seccond commercial, while a women's can be be accessed by a book or a full length motion picture, something that does not work as well for men.

What the hey are you going on about? You were the one that suggested that men had a higher visual sexual stimulation? I said that it takes less for a man not more. We don't have a greater or higher visual sense, ours is simpler? Huh? Are you refuting my point  which was to contradict your earlier statements or you accepting my point which for some reason you're taking it as a given which you already stated?

Your definition only sought to circularly prove your assertion, and little to clarify your point! You've been spending too much time on the battlefront, my friend

Please break down my arguement and explain how its circular? I was defining maturity and then I went on to correlate that with sexual maturity. You do realise that this is academic? Inspite of the lack of details to specifics of sexual behaviour, we can still study development and seperate the different stages.

Um, I'll keep that in mind.

Makes no difference. My uncle once said to me, as hard as you try to hold on to your youth, age catches up and changes the way you look at the world.

Did they help you become aware of your self, or did they help to shape your self into a self that you were more comfortable with than your previous self?

Nope they gave me the tools that I could use and never did they have a hand on the tools that shaped me.

Ehhh, nope. I think it is a matter of  personal taste

Says the child to the grandparent, 'no grand dad, i'm not going to grow old, i'm going to be a child forever!'.
Listen, agian it makes no difference really to how you react to this. A lot of what I said is not personal tastes, it is a question of your development.

Do you play with little choo trains? Do you sit in front of a great painting and admire it's worth? Do you watch cartoons? Or do you watch great master pieces? More importantly, what do you value and how much have your values changed? How much did you let change and how much of it changed without you realising it?

Its a part of an individual growth. Its a constant. Look around you and what do you see? Ask your parents what they value now and compare that to what you value at ths moment. Ask anyone you know that is not a parent but at least 10 years older then you.

Says the granddad to the child, "i wish i could stay young forever too, but the second hand is far stronger then any force in the universe."

HitScan

Tue Feb 19 15:29:20 2002

The "Dude!" guy, Steven, will be on a radio station in Indy tomorrow. I quiver. Repeatedly. Heh.
DuffMan

Wed Feb 20 17:49:13 2002


Me wasn't talking about orgamsims either. Me was actually talking about sex drive too.
Second what do you mean men exert more physical energy? How was this result taken? Is it because more often then not men have to do more work?

No, men burn way more calories durring an orgasim than women do. They have a larger refraction period (is that the right word) while women can have multiple orgasims without getting tired. At least this is in general, won't apply to everyone with exception.


Ask the women you know. Then agian I'm surrounded by women in their early to late 20's so that might be a factor.

You're surrounded by 20something women that like dirty sex?
CONGRATULATIONS! :cheesy:


That is a statistically wrong. Women think about sex more then men. Then again there were statistics that once suggested that teenage boys thought about sex a lot. Then again stats prove that there is no absolute ratio to who thinks about sex a lot more.

Most studies I've seen show that men think about the act of sex more frequently and for a longer period of time than the average women. Then again I haven't really researched the subject in depth.

Now does anyone measure sexual urges as a value? And your logic is wrong, try again:
For example if I say the resistance against sex urge is 5 and by chance the sex urge strength is 6, then we have a total of '1' sex urge left.
Now we could say resistance against urges are 20 and sex urge strength is 21, the total that is again 1.
This is a silly example, but it comes down to the fact that you can't logically say that if you can't resist then it is therefore fact that the urges are stronger then some one else who can resist thus their urges are weak. Its a possiblity but no absolute.

Stop confusing me!

Sorry but i have to snort at this assertion.

I see your snort and raise you a scoff.

Did ya know that the science community knows less about the details of the vagina then the penis? This is FACT! There is more text available about the penis, more research into the penis, and simply more detail about the penis. The vagia has sadly been overshadowed by the penis in the medical community. You're talking about medical fact as if it were absolute, especially for something we think should be obviously well known. Don't take things for granted.

Damn that penis, always trying to hog the spotlight he is!
In the US the Gynocological profession is HUGE.

Research into sexual behaviour is also very limited because its not easy to quantify.

You could say that about any behaivioral research.
And since you had to bring up the BF, link please to this supposed facts from objective non machoistic community?

Ha! If i do an internet search for it I'll end up in pr0n popup hell. I see your plan, you evil bastard.

No, the reason there are more scantily clad women in the media is because the a huge part of that industry is owned by men, controlled by men and bought by men.

Regardless media is trying to sell a product to a target audience. Women have tons of consumer purchasing power. I don't think media executives would ignore this just because they are men. If Scanitly clad men could sell a product as well as the scanily clad woman, someone would have caught on to it a long time ago.

What the hey are you going on about? You were the one that suggested that men had a higher visual sexual stimulation? I said that it takes less for a man not more. We don't have a greater or higher visual sense, ours is simpler? Huh? Are you refuting my point  which was to contradict your earlier statements or you accepting my point which for some reason you're taking it as a given which you already stated?

I'm agreeing with your point, because it agrees with my point. My point is that the high amounts of scanily clad women on TV is due to the fact that this method can be used to access a man's simple sensual sense and convince him to buy a product. The women's sensual sense is to complex to be duped in this way.

Please break down my arguement and explain how its circular? I was defining maturity and then I went on to correlate that with sexual maturity. You do realise that this is academic? Inspite of the lack of details to specifics of sexual behaviour, we can still study development and seperate the different stages.

You originally stated that was that a certain reaction was less sexually mature than annother. Then you defined sexual maturity as being about how you react to things. Quite circular, this is. This does nothing to convice me that your assertions about sexual maturity are objective. What would have helped would have been something to show that one reaction (i.e. being disgusted by the gay porn) was less mature than yours.

Makes no difference. My uncle once said to me, as hard as you try to hold on to your youth, age catches up and changes the way you look at the world.

Says the child to the grandparent, 'no grand dad, i'm not going to grow old, i'm going to be a child forever!'.
Listen, agian it makes no difference really to how you react to this. A lot of what I said is not personal tastes, it is a question of your development.

Hmm let me tell a little story to illustrate my point. About a month or so ago I was at work, walking along when a woman flashed a two page spread in a pornographic magazine of a naked woman at me. Me immediate reaction to this was to turn away. Now do i find the image a naked woman disgusting? Hell no! And this was a very attractive model in a tastefully done photograph. However being at work, i thought the image was inappropriate. It violated a certain boundry, in that porno and the workplace shouldn't mix. Everyone has certain boundries of what is and what isn't appropriate. Creating boundries is a normal part of emotional development. In fact, people who do not have boundries often suffer from emotional and pyschological problems, and find trouble interfacing with society.
The other guys in your case may have found that the gay porn crossed their own personal boundries. I don't believe that having boundries makes you a homophobe or sexually immature. I think I would have reacted the same way in that situation. I don't find the idea of a naked man disgusting or have issues with my own sexuality. That doesn't mind that I find gay porn in a mixed social setting appropriate. This doesn't mean showing me gay porn is going to make me angry or disgusted, but my intial reaction will probably be one of adversion.

===end of rant====

Begin silliness:

Do you play with little choo trains?

I wonder where my old Brio set is. Oh the days.

Do you sit in front of a great painting and admire it's worth?

Worth to the progression and history of art perhaps. Though most likely I will get board and set off the photo eye just to mess with the gaurds' minds.

Do you watch cartoons?

Hey, don't make fun of IG!
Or do you watch great master pieces?

Hmmmm, I don't think "Dude, Where's my Car" quite qualifies, so no.

More importantly, what do you value and how much have your values changed? How much did you let change and how much of it changed without you realising it?

Peoples' values are always changing. No one stays the same forever. However I will always value teh boobies very much!

Its a part of an individual growth. Its a constant. Look around you and what do you see?

I see... not enough boobies!

Ask your parents what they value now and compare that to what you value at ths moment.

The quest  for effective verbal communication with my parents was given up long long ago.

Ask anyone you know that is not a parent but at least 10 years older then you.

Yes, I wonder if they still value teh boobies as much as they used to.

Says the granddad to the child, "i wish i could stay young forever too, but the second hand is far stronger then any force in the universe."

That's what I thought once. So I threw my watch on to the concrete ground. Then it stopped working. Boy did I feel stupid.
DuffMan

Wed Feb 20 17:53:18 2002


Me wasn't talking about orgamsims either. Me was actually talking about sex drive too.
Second what do you mean men exert more physical energy? How was this result taken? Is it because more often then not men have to do more work?

No, men burn way more calories durring an orgasim than women do. They have a larger refraction period (is that the right word) while women can have multiple orgasims without getting tired. At least this is in general, won't apply to everyone without exception.


Ask the women you know. Then agian I'm surrounded by women in their early to late 20's so that might be a factor.

You're surrounded by 20something women that like dirty sex?
CONGRATULATIONS! :cheesy:


That is a statistically wrong. Women think about sex more then men. Then again there were statistics that once suggested that teenage boys thought about sex a lot. Then again stats prove that there is no absolute ratio to who thinks about sex a lot more.

Most studies I've seen show that men think about the act of sex more frequently and for a longer period of time than the average women. Then again I haven't really researched the subject in depth.

Now does anyone measure sexual urges as a value? And your logic is wrong, try again:
For example if I say the resistance against sex urge is 5 and by chance the sex urge strength is 6, then we have a total of '1' sex urge left.
Now we could say resistance against urges are 20 and sex urge strength is 21, the total that is again 1.
This is a silly example, but it comes down to the fact that you can't logically say that if you can't resist then it is therefore fact that the urges are stronger then some one else who can resist thus their urges are weak. Its a possiblity but no absolute.

Stop confusing me!

Sorry but i have to snort at this assertion.

I see your snort and raise you a scoff.

Did ya know that the science community knows less about the details of the vagina then the penis? This is FACT! There is more text available about the penis, more research into the penis, and simply more detail about the penis. The vagia has sadly been overshadowed by the penis in the medical community. You're talking about medical fact as if it were absolute, especially for something we think should be obviously well known. Don't take things for granted.

Damn that penis, always trying to hog the spotlight he is!
In the US the Gynocological profession is HUGE.

Research into sexual behaviour is also very limited because its not easy to quantify.

You could say that about any behaivioral research.
And since you had to bring up the BF, link please to this supposed facts from objective non machoistic community?

Ha! If i do an internet search for it I'll end up in pr0n popup hell. I see your plan, you evil bastard.

No, the reason there are more scantily clad women in the media is because the a huge part of that industry is owned by men, controlled by men and bought by men.

Regardless media is trying to sell a product to a target audience. Women have tons of consumer purchasing power. I don't think media executives would ignore this just because they are men. If Scanitly clad men could sell a product as well as the scanily clad woman, someone would have caught on to it a long time ago.

What the hey are you going on about? You were the one that suggested that men had a higher visual sexual stimulation? I said that it takes less for a man not more. We don't have a greater or higher visual sense, ours is simpler? Huh? Are you refuting my point  which was to contradict your earlier statements or you accepting my point which for some reason you're taking it as a given which you already stated?

I'm agreeing with your point, because it agrees with my point. My point is that the high amounts of scanily clad women on TV is due to the fact that this method can be used to access a man's simple sensual sense and convince him to buy a product. The women's sensual sense is to complex to be duped in this way.

Please break down my arguement and explain how its circular? I was defining maturity and then I went on to correlate that with sexual maturity. You do realise that this is academic? Inspite of the lack of details to specifics of sexual behaviour, we can still study development and seperate the different stages.

You originally stated that a certain reaction was less sexually mature than annother. Then you defined sexual maturity as being about how you react to things. Quite circular, this is. This does nothing to convice me that your assertions about sexual maturity are objective. What would have helped would have been something to show that one reaction (i.e. being disgusted by the gay porn) was less mature than yours.

Makes no difference. My uncle once said to me, as hard as you try to hold on to your youth, age catches up and changes the way you look at the world.

Says the child to the grandparent, 'no grand dad, i'm not going to grow old, i'm going to be a child forever!'.
Listen, agian it makes no difference really to how you react to this. A lot of what I said is not personal tastes, it is a question of your development.

Hmm let me tell a little story to illustrate my point. About a month or so ago I was at work, walking along when a woman flashed a two page spread in a pornographic magazine of a naked woman at me. Me immediate reaction to this was to turn away. Now do i find the image a naked woman disgusting? Hell no! And this was a very attractive model in a tastefully done photograph. However being at work, i thought the image was inappropriate. It violated a certain boundry, in that porno and the workplace shouldn't mix. Everyone has certain boundries of what is and what isn't appropriate. Creating boundries is a normal part of emotional development. In fact, people who do not have boundries often suffer from emotional and pyschological problems, and find trouble interfacing with society.
The other guys in your case may have found that the gay porn crossed their own personal boundries. I don't believe that having boundries makes you a homophobe or sexually immature. I think I would have reacted the same way in that situation. I don't find the idea of a naked man disgusting or have issues with my own sexuality. That doesn't mind that I find gay porn in a mixed social setting appropriate. This doesn't mean showing me gay porn is going to make me angry or disgusted, but my intial reaction will probably be one of adversion.

===end of rant====

Begin silliness:

Do you play with little choo trains?

I wonder where my old Brio set is. Oh the days.

Do you sit in front of a great painting and admire it's worth?

Worth to the progression and history of art perhaps. Though most likely I will get board and set off the photo eye just to mess with the gaurds' minds.

Do you watch cartoons?

Hey, don't make fun of IG!
Or do you watch great master pieces?

Hmmmm, I don't think "Dude, Where's my Car" quite qualifies, so no.

More importantly, what do you value and how much have your values changed? How much did you let change and how much of it changed without you realising it?

Peoples' values are always changing. No one stays the same forever. However I will always value teh boobies very much!

Its a part of an individual growth. Its a constant. Look around you and what do you see?

I see... not enough boobies!

Ask your parents what they value now and compare that to what you value at ths moment.

The quest  for effective verbal communication with my parents was given up long long ago.

Ask anyone you know that is not a parent but at least 10 years older then you.

Yes, I wonder if they still value teh boobies as much as they used to.

Says the granddad to the child, "i wish i could stay young forever too, but the second hand is far stronger then any force in the universe."

That's what I thought once. So I threw my watch on to the concrete ground. Then it stopped working. Boy did I feel stupid.

(Edited by DuffMan at 11:54 am on Feb. 20, 2002)

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