Tue Feb 5 09:06:19 2002
Anyway, for those open minded ones here (read: not msoft whores ) i'd recommend checking out mozilla. Its only ~14 megs and i don't think it requires a restart unless you fags have some crappy OS that require a restart because of some browser... ;)
muahahahaha!!!!
<troll>Mozilla ownz j00 m$ 51u75!!!!</troll>
Anti-M$ Troll Productions™
:cheesy:
Tue Feb 5 11:27:30 2002
Crap, it's late, and I haven't slept.. looking for older mac roms so's I can play with more emulation style stuff....... boring.
Tue Feb 5 15:06:31 2002
Tue Feb 5 16:02:20 2002
Luckily, I got IE 6 working just fine again,
Two things:
1) How did IE 6 not work fine before? I'm assuming something went wrong since you said you GOT it to work fine again.
2) How does a browser fuck with an OS? The worse i've seen a browser do is in Mac OS 9 and with java based website using IE.
Either way you reminded me of why i actually moved away from pc's in the first place. Its random shit that just fails which irk me. Granted with Win2K i haven't had any problems other then driver related issues. And in OS 9 its the unprotected memory that can be quite a pain. With OS X its the GUI which is a little annoying.
<troll> none the less I laugh at you for being so scared like a little girl by a browser. What your wannabe industrial OS can't handle a little bit of beta software? muahahahahaha!!!!!</troll>
I believe AYB has infected me with the troll bug. Its quite fun really.
;) :biggrin:
seriously though, what happened with teh IE 6? Me wants to know so maybe I don't fuck my NT server at work which I installed IE 6 on. :eek:
Tue Feb 5 16:04:38 2002
(Edited by OscarWilde at 11:05 pm on Feb. 5, 2002)
Tue Feb 5 16:30:12 2002
I believe AYB has infected me with the troll bug. Its quite fun really.
And you are merely in the first stages. Eventually it leads to pure lunacy and posting the word "indeed" all the time.
MUAHAHAHAHA! :)
Tue Feb 5 16:39:38 2002
oh shit it has begun and there is no turning back...
/me trembles in fear as troll bug slowly takes over
"resistance is futile!"
Tue Feb 5 16:49:45 2002
The indeed bug has gotten the Illustrious Poopy-Head :tongue:
Well, how's yer day going?
Tue Feb 5 16:57:31 2002
Tue Feb 5 16:59:35 2002
Anyway its 1 in the morning. Must head of to bed. I plan to work out for at least an hour tomorrow.
G'night my stinky headed brother!
:)
Tue Feb 5 17:09:48 2002
Think I'll go download it now. I was impressed with it last time, except that it took to long to start up, and crashed occasionally.
Tue Feb 5 17:30:06 2002
Add to that my biceps are to small compared to my triceps and shoulders.
IIRC, biceps are for show. Triceps and shoulders are much more usefull. I need to get off my stinky-headed little butt and go exersize.
:)
Tue Feb 5 18:38:49 2002
btw, i think this is a version i can finally use full time. it is soooooooooooooooooo much faster than .9.5 was.
Tue Feb 5 19:58:41 2002
1) How did IE 6 not work fine before? I'm assuming something went wrong since you said you GOT it to work fine again.
2) How does a browser fuck with an OS? The worse i've seen a browser do is in Mac OS 9 and with java based website using IE.
For 2: It doesn't mess with the OS, persay, but it fucks the shatacular 3Dfx drivers on this POS card, locking the whole thing up. IE will still do it once every couple of weeks, but Moz does (did?) it on startup, every time. I may give it a shot again later.
As for your server, you'll be fine so long as you don't use a lot of shite hardware. Such is the way of things.
Wed Feb 6 05:23:17 2002
Of all things, Mozilla 0.9.8 is slow on Win2k, relative to the performance on Mac OS X. On OS X mozilla just rips through web pages.
Mozilla on Win2k does render a few sites like forums a tad faster then IE 6 does, but not enough to warrant a switch. Plus Mozilla takes quite some time to start up too? Which is odd because I assumed since the improved start up times on OS X (still no where as fast as IE, read: instant) I would see the same in Win 2k. They did give the option to use the 'start up' panel or some such deal where some of the stuff is kept active in memory to allow for faster start times but I didn't enable that. I wanted to compare the similarities and difference with the version osn OS X.
Typing this post in Mozilla I can feel a lag between the typing and what is appearing on the screen. Its an odd sensation seeing words a while after you typed them.
Interesting. I wonder how performance of Mozilla is on Linux. Now I'm at odds to why Mozilla performs better on OS X. I expected the same or better on the PC side at least.
Hitscan, I obviously don't remember that thread you wrote. Now my question is, and maybe Peter is the only one that can answer this, how in the name of great poop does a browser or any software for that matter mess with drivers?
<troll> what does your wannabe modern industrial strength OS written for a craptacular ancient ISA to much of a baby to handle a browser? muahahahahaha!!!!</troll>
As for my server, well i'm not to worried. I kept my server to the bare minimum in terms of hardware. Everything is Intel server qualified. The towercase, the motherboard, the chip ;) . I have two ethernet cards, one is 3Com and the other is Buffalo and both have native NT drivers. Everything else is on board the motherboard, i.e. video, two IDE channels, two ATA 100 channels, and one scsi channel. I think thats right but the point is, I made sure to avoid any driver problems by keeping hardware minimum and spending the money on good hardware too. Oh and making sure its on the HCL, although I don't think the Buffalo lan card is even in the HCL. :biggrin:
Besides the money I spend on the SBS 4.5 package and then adding 15 more client licences is a whole lot of money so I'm not going to be stupid and be cheap on hardware. Fuck no! I don't care what the fucktards at the BF say about PC's being bought at cheap prices. YOU PAY FOR WHAT YOU GET! :tongue:
The pc's at work that last a good deal of time all have the money put in them. All the other pc's that I went cheap on are way to fickle. Man the cheapy book pc's here at work piss me off!!! GRRRR!!! :mad:
Wed Feb 6 05:59:46 2002
Plus Mozilla takes quite some time to start up too?
when i attempted to "race" moz, ie, and ns4 by clicking on their quicklaunch icons (starting condition had all three closed, none running (well ie was as closed as it can be :p), and the turbo option for moz turned OFF), moz would generally be loaded before i could click on the next icon.
to *me,* that's fast.
Wed Feb 6 06:32:35 2002
Its even faster then IE at start up????
huh?
Anyvays! now i'm jealous. I want the same deal on OS X!!!! good god its fast....
because of Mozilla eating memory I usually quit the apps when not in use. On win2k with one window open Mozilla is using ~22megs of memory. IE is using ~13megs with one window open.
Yep mozilla is going to be a sweet browser. To bad Msoft changed the whole plug in situation. I wonder how that will work out....
fuck MS for some of the shit they pull.
Wed Feb 6 19:53:17 2002
Wed Feb 6 19:53:51 2002
how in the name of great poop does a browser or any software for that matter mess with drivers?
Thu Feb 7 00:14:29 2002
from OscarWilde posted at 10:32 pm on Feb. 5, 2002
To bad Msoft changed the whole plug in situation. I wonder how that will work out....fuck MS for some of the shit they pull.
How'd they do that?
Thu Feb 7 00:22:51 2002
Thu Feb 7 02:57:46 2002
I thought ActiveX was less sequre?
Thu Feb 7 03:04:03 2002
Thu Feb 7 03:16:38 2002
So even if Mozilla gets phenomenally great by 1.0 (seeing as 0.9.8 is already very good) the plug in deal might turn people away if web developers slowly only support activeX only. Is activeX an open standard? Can anyone adopt it with no hassle? Or does MS have some grip on its use?
Thu Feb 7 03:57:33 2002
that said... how many plugins do you need? flash, maybe quicktime... what else?
Thu Feb 7 04:16:12 2002
Is activeX an open standard? Can anyone adopt it with no hassle? Or does MS have some grip on its use?