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Hey Duff!

AllYorBaseRBelong2Us

Sun Dec 16 21:13:08 2001

What Cele's/P3's do you think will be sufficiently cooled by heatsink alone?

anyone else can answer as well :)

pauli

Mon Dec 17 01:08:30 2001

ideally, celeron 533 fcpga or cumines at 500 (fcpga) or 550 (slot1). you can go a lot higher of course, but those are the coolest running chips intel has made in a very long time (not counting strongarm).

http://support.intel.com/support/processors/sspec/p3p.htm
http://support.intel.com/support/processors/sspec/icp.htm

(Edited by pauli at 8:09 pm on Dec. 16, 2001)

AllYorBaseRBelong2Us

Mon Dec 17 01:37:51 2001

Thanks pauli,

I asked because i'm considering having an intel based webserver for the fact that they are very available in Agora right now, as well as more upgradable.

DuffMan

Mon Dec 17 14:09:53 2001

Yes. In fact every Dell and most compaq P3 systems that I've opened up don't have fans on the heatsink itself. Something about the vibrations of the fan possibly being harmfull to a cpu over a long period of time. They do have a case fan near the heatsink though, which is something you probably should have.

Just make sure the heatsink is big enough and their is good thermal paste between the cpu and heatsink.

vc

Mon Dec 17 15:50:41 2001

How high can you get away with fanless Intels?
Think a [url=http://www.via.com.tw/jsp/en/products/C3/c3.jsp]Via C3[/url], @866, designed to be fanless, would burn off the best Intel effort?
AllYorBaseRBelong2Us

Mon Dec 17 17:09:34 2001

the C3 866 performas like a 600 cele or so.

It roughly resembles a 486 in quake.

HitScan

Mon Dec 17 18:40:04 2001


It roughly resembles a 486 in quake.

Shitty floating point. If there's FP code in a webserver I'd be asking people just what the hell is up with that. (aside from the scripting languages of course...) Of course, I wouldn't pay more than 20 dollars for something from the likes of Cyrix (where Via got the thing) It's like a hot-potato game, it's fun to pass around, but no one wants to end up with it, heh.
AllYorBaseRBelong2Us

Mon Dec 17 18:48:38 2001

I wouldn't pay more than 20 dollars for something from the likes of Cyrix (where Via got the thing)

Which is another reason I don't like the C3

I don't wish to perpetuate the evilness that is Via.  I do not want to be one who is found guilty of putting food on the table of their Win32 driver team.

Riso

Wed Dec 19 15:18:14 2001

likes of Cyrix (where Via got the thing

Sorry to dissapoint you, but VIA got the thing from Winchip. (Indeed, even worse than Cyrix)

Imitation Gruel

Sun Dec 30 08:23:45 2001

Sorry to dissapoint you, but VIA got the thing from Winchip

Riso has it right. The C3 core is actually a Centaur which made Winchips. The C5X core, which is allegedly due in late 2002 and is similar to the Intel P7 core (17+ pipeline stages), will be homegrown (Via). Which means it should be expected to work only intermittently at best.

HitScan

Sun Dec 30 17:31:47 2001

Sorry to dissapoint you, but VIA got the thing from Winchip. (Indeed, even worse than Cyrix)

I.. I feel faint. There's Winchip IP in a company who made a part in 2 of my power boxes. Help... me...! ! !

Whatever did happen to the Cyrix stuff? It just dissapear? (They did make chips for a while right? :eek: )

Imitation Gruel

Sun Dec 30 18:24:10 2001

Whatever did happen to the Cyrix stuff? It just dissapear?

Last true Cyrix processor was the MIII if I remember right. Early P6-core rip. I could be wrong.

AllYorBaseRBelong2Us

Sun Dec 30 19:41:00 2001

Early P6-core rip. I could be wrong.

I don't think so.  i remeber it being a POS all round.  In fact I thought it was really:

:fruit:

I belive it was an in-order design with such a bad FP implementation, I wouldn't be surprised if it was implemented in microcode using the Int ALU's.  :gay: