Wed Dec 5 15:29:24 2001
man what a fucking fucktard.
i've been waiting for the pizza fuck to fall on his face.
waaaayyy to many people respect the guy but fail to see what he really stands for.
muahahahahaha!!!!!
stupid bitch. got what he deserves.
Wed Dec 5 15:46:18 2001
two...
three...
link?
Wed Dec 5 15:46:42 2001
Wed Dec 5 15:53:37 2001
one...two...
three...
link?
Wed Dec 5 18:28:22 2001
You be a mac user in the BF and deal with some of this shit there. Yeah mac users aren't any better, but they act out of line its the whip, or a lock at least.
PC user acts out of line and its all good.
LBT gets banned for being abusive. What about the numerous times that Evil_Merlin has been abusive in his language?
What?
you mean ceaser is biased too?
huh?
no shit ars's founder is a prick to an extent. 'buh-bye" Oh what an ass. Why didn't he say that to Evil_merlin? Or Seta for his trolling?
The door should swing both ways. I say throw all the stupid zealouts out or none at all.
I like hannibal and John Siracusa though. They represent the best of ars.
Wed Dec 5 20:03:30 2001
LBT gets banned for being abusive. What about the numerous times that Evil_Merlin has been abusive in his language?What?
you mean ceaser is biased too?
huh?
no shit ars's founder is a prick to an extent. 'buh-bye" Oh what an ass. Why didn't he say that to Evil_merlin? Or Seta for his trolling?
The door should swing both ways. I say throw all the stupid zealouts out or none at all.
Besides, some little fucker says I've got a brit up my ass would probly get the "buh-bye" when I ban him too :tongue:
Wed Dec 5 20:44:01 2001
That's not entirely accurate. Granted, EM is one cursing motherfucker, but he's never been as bad as LTB has as of late.
Untrue. EM has been downright insulting with me, personally and I've rarely started with him. Geez, Hit, he *coined* the word "fucktard".
Misquoting, the whole PeterB up his ass thing, almost his entire posting catalog as a matter of fact. You've got to work hard to piss off the guy in charge. He doesn't even like the BF, and it's no wonder he doesn't read it much (I'm straying more into Symposium terrirory myself, especially after all the XXX is shoddy, cashing in, etc. threads of late...)
I agree that he isn't paying attention. But that doesn't mean he's doing his "job" properly.
Quote:
no shit ars's founder is a prick to an extent. 'buh-bye" Oh what an ass. Why didn't he say that to Evil_merlin? Or Seta for his trolling?
The door should swing both ways. I say throw all the stupid zealouts out or none at all.
Agreed. Both seta and EM are *very* insulting and should have been banned just as much as LTB.
Besides, some little fucker says I've got a brit up my ass would probly get the "buh-bye" when I ban him too
Heh.
I personally don't hate Peter but I do resent his actions.
For example, I asked nicely for him to remove my posts from the prowlerguy post, as prowlerguy was starting to invent insults that I had "told him". Peter did nothing. He started the same insulting, stupid thread again, and Peter does nothing. Moreso, after spending three days of email tag, jumping through hoops for him, making a request for the elimination of my posts and sending him the actual emails...
He did nothing(granted, he waited to long so I told him not to).
As for his answer to the emails(that everyone insisted I made up)...
He never answered.
All in all, Peter has been less than fair.
M.
Wed Dec 5 21:08:36 2001
Wed Dec 5 21:18:54 2001
Geez, Hit, he *coined* the word "fucktard".
As for a comparison, I see a (well, small) difference betwteen
, you really are a fucktard aren't ya?
Were you brainwashed by the Apple RDF from birth?Or are you just looking for a place to fit in?
What's the matter? My experience with Apple proves they only care about Mr. Jobs and his personal jet and his mad desire to be popular? Lemme know when you have worked for apple and also done programming for Apple and see the utter lack of support they are willing to give a small to mid size programming shop, and then compare how Microsoft goes out of their way to help and support the same.
And
Are you a fucking retard? Why YES...YES YOU ARE! Just because a famous person is dead doesn't mean his close family or relatives or anyone George was associated with can't sue Apple. Get real bitch!PeterB, you're lame...almost as lame as Venture. It's too bad your dick is so far up Caesar's ass...nobody would let an asshole like you moderate these boards.
Of course, it would be best if neither were very common, but since there will be stuff either way, I'd rather see the former than the latter.
Besides, E_M does from time to time post other things, for instance the suggestion he had for me to fix that b0rked W2K box (which sadly, still will not work), while I've seen nothing even remotely comparable from LTB. Maybe he's more mellow in the Mac Achia, but I've not been there to see.
Wed Dec 5 21:39:01 2001
He's useless.
I have to honestly say that I have *NEVER* heard of him say *anything* useful on the BF or anywhere else.
I'm not exagerrating either.
M.
Wed Dec 5 22:07:22 2001
Wed Dec 5 23:12:05 2001
Untrue. EM has been downright insulting with me, personally and I've rarely started with him. Geez, Hit, he *coined* the word "fucktard".
No, he didn't. The word "fucktard" has been floating around the web and Usenet since before Ars even existed.
I personally don't hate Peter but I do resent his actions.For example, I asked nicely for him to remove my posts from the prowlerguy post, as prowlerguy was starting to invent insults that I had "told him". Peter did nothing. He started the same insulting, stupid thread again, and Peter does nothing. Moreso, after spending three days of email tag, jumping through hoops for him, making a request for the elimination of my posts and sending him the actual emails...
Fuck you Madan.
Jumping through hoops?
I asked you for the e-mail headers. That was it. It took you days to return them to be, after first denying that there even were any. By the time you finally got off your ass and sent me the full e-mails including headers, you said it was too late anyway.
I will not delete your posts on a whim. I asked for a simple piece of information, and you took a long, long time to give it to me.
He did nothing(granted, he waited to long so I told him not to).
As for his answer to the emails(that everyone insisted I made up)...He never answered.
All in all, Peter has been less than fair.
M.
Wed Dec 5 23:16:34 2001
from OscarWilde posted at 3:29 pm on Dec. 5, 2001
PeterB got his ass raped at the BF. Finally proof that peterb is indeed the biggest jack ass of them all.man what a fucking fucktard.
i've been waiting for the pizza fuck to fall on his face.
waaaayyy to many people respect the guy but fail to see what he really stands for.
muahahahahaha!!!!!stupid bitch. got what he deserves.
(1) Caesar -- you know, they guy who owns the board, to whom I answer to -- didn't think the thread needed locking. I agree. No-one, so far, seems to have explained why it should have been.
(2) Did you e-mail me about it, explaining why you felt it should have been locked? You might have bitched in the thread. I've said before, and I will say again, given that you're apparently too fucking stupid to understand, I won't heed people bitching in a thread about how they want it locked.
I'm sitting here staring at my Inbox, and ya know what? I don't see any e-mails from you requesting it be closed. Might that be because you didn't send any?
In short, fuck off and die, you stupid cock.
Wed Dec 5 23:35:53 2001
ahahahahahaha.
No, he didn't. The word "fucktard" has been floating around the web and Usenet since before Ars even existed.
That may be true, but he was the first person I heard use it on Ars and the one to "push" the word the most.
Quote: I personally don't hate Peter but I do resent his actions.For example, I asked nicely for him to remove my posts from the prowlerguy post, as prowlerguy was starting to invent insults that I had "told him". Peter did nothing. He started the same insulting, stupid thread again, and Peter does nothing. Moreso, after spending three days of email tag, jumping through hoops for him, making a request for the elimination of my posts and sending him the actual emails...
BULLSHIT.Fuck you Madan.
Jumping through hoops?
I asked you for the e-mail headers. That was it.
This is inaccurate. I asked you on the board and then you indicated that you needed a "formal email request". I sent you the request and you emailed me later on that you needed the headers. I indicated that there weren't any...mistakenly so because I didn't know how to obtain them from the Yahoo mail.
It took you days to return them to be, after first denying that there even were any. By the time you finally got off your ass and sent me the full e-mails including headers, you said it was too late anyway.
But thank you for setting pg and the others right, when the indicated that I fabricated the emails. I mean, it's not like you had the headers in front of you and could have told them to cut the shit out, right?
Of course not.
I will not delete your posts on a whim. I asked for a simple piece of information, and you took a long, long time to give it to me.
I took a day and a half after you indicated how the headers could be retrieved.
In the meantime, you didn't even meet me half way by locking the thread.
Quote: He did nothing(granted, he waited to long so I told him not to).Fuck off you lying cunt. I was waiting for you to show me the fucking headers that you were too fucking stupid to send me.
Look you grotesque fruit, don't bitch to me about anything. Two days, is not a *long* time and you were asking for the crown fucking jewels: emails/headers...and in the end, you never even emailed me back. This, after insinuating that my emails *might* have been fabricated on this very board.
Quote: As for his answer to the emails(that everyone insisted I made up)...He never answered.
All in all, Peter has been less than fair.
M.
Bite me you fucking cocksucker.
Translation: I'm a whiny bitch that insinuated that he made the whole thing up but was fucking wrong.
But then again, what can you expect from a biased, pompous, over-rated fucklet that bitches and whines like a little bitch about everything. Hell, I've *never* seen an example of greater bitchiness than your "sabatical" from the BF, after Caesar refused to put you on the poll for Mod.
Do you remember Peter? Me sending you an email telling you not to worry about it? Me telling you that, despite me being a Mac user, I RESPECTED you?
You dumping your guts on BF, crying like a little bitch because you didn't get chosen?
FUCK you Peter. I've been a hella lot more respectful to you than you've *ever* been to me.
Loser.
Mad.
Wed Dec 5 23:44:32 2001
I understand everyone's beef with eachother. But can't we be civilized?
Meh.
Wed Dec 5 23:49:25 2001
This is inaccurate. I asked you on the board and then you indicated that you needed a "formal email request". I sent you the request and you emailed me later on that you needed the headers. I indicated that there weren't any...mistakenly so because I didn't know how to obtain them from the Yahoo mail.
But thank you for setting pg and the others right, when the indicated that I fabricated the emails. I mean, it's not like you had the headers in front of you and could have told them to cut the shit out, right?Of course not.
I took a day and a half after you indicated how the headers could be retrieved.In the meantime, you didn't even meet me half way by locking the thread.
Look you grotesque fruit, don't bitch to me about anything. Two days, is not a *long* time and you were asking for the crown fucking jewels: emails/headers...
You're joking, right?
If you're not going to send the headers, don't bother. Without the headers, your allegations mean fuck all.
and in the end, you never even emailed me back. This, after insinuating that my emails *might* have been fabricated on this very board.
Translation: I'm a whiny bitch that insinuated that he made the whole thing up but was fucking wrong.
Without headers, the e-mails could just has well have come from yourself. There's no way of knowing. I don't imagine that you did send them to yourself -- I am simply telling the truth. Without headers, I can't know if you did or not. Hence, I'm not going to act on them.
But then again, what can you expect from a biased, pompous, over-rated fucklet that bitches and whines like a little bitch about everything. Hell, I've *never* seen an example of greater bitchiness than your "sabatical" from the BF, after Caesar refused to put you on the poll for Mod.
Do you remember Peter? Me sending you an email telling you not to worry about it? Me telling you that, despite me being a Mac user, I RESPECTED you?You dumping your guts on BF, crying like a little bitch because you didn't get chosen?
FUCK you Peter. I've been a hella lot more respectful to you than you've *ever* been to me.
Loser.Mad.
Thu Dec 6 01:57:31 2001
Oooh, let's see.
(1) Caesar -- you know, they guy who owns the board, to whom I answer to -- didn't think the thread needed locking.
I agree. No-one, so far, seems to have explained why it should have been.
Fuck you hypocrit. Did you see the links that atari posted? Its clear that if its Microsoft you'll do your job. I'm not saying that you ignore or make it a point to null and void all anti-microsoft threads, but you do make sure that if an anti-microsoft thread is out of place you lock it and suggest moving it to the soap box.
The whole thing with Msoft using deadpeople to lobby politicans is as unethical as Apple using a recent dead person to further their marketing goals. Yet in one you lock and suggest soapbox, in the other you agree and promote the battlefront.
You're so fucking hypocritical and your back peddling is obvious. I'm almost falling of my chair from laughing so hard at your pansy white ass turning round and round like a dog chasing its tail.
(2) Did you e-mail me about it, explaining why you felt it should have been locked? You might have bitched in the thread.
Hold on a fucking second. You mean you're stupid? YOU NEED PEOPLE TO EMAIL YOU TO DO SOMETHING? What ever happened to judgement or a GIVEN responsibility to uphold the rules/laws of a web forum? Fuck you and stop trying to divert the issue. You were one of the first people to post there. Your first opinion was that Venture is right (and maybe he is) but you never suggested taking it to the soapbox as you did for other msoft threads.
I don't have to fucking email you. When we voted for a mod, we assumed that we would choose someone who would be fair in any case
But wait. We didn't vote for you did we? Infact a lot of people did say that you would be unfair. And looks like they were right. Too bad that your crocodile tears got you a job you never deserved in the first place, and obviously have shown that you can't shoulder the responsibility for it.
I've said before, and I will say again, given that you're apparently too fucking stupid to understand, I won't heed people bitching in a thread about how they want it locked.
No its apparent you're fucking stupid to see your own double standards. My failure is not my stupidity but my immaturity in getting involved in this entire matter in the first place.
I'm sitting here staring at my Inbox, and ya know what? I don't see any e-mails from you requesting it be closed. Might that be because you didn't send any?
Don't be a sarcastic little fuck. You failed to do your job the first time over a thread where its theme you have shown in the past to have locked. Only because it involved Apple and I know you enjoy watching 'maclots' or iTards sailivating like mad rabid dogs you let it slide FOR YOUR OWN FUCKING AMMUSEMENT. Why the fuck should I email YOU. I certianly did not vote for you and I did believe that you would be biased. And guess what you were. You have given no reason to any mac user to trust in you being fair.
I don't expect you to lock every anit-mac thread just because someone emails you to do so, but in light of such examples I'm afraid there simply is no reason to trust you period.
In short, fuck off and die, you stupid cock.
How about in short you be a fucking man and grow some balls. You don't like it when you have to taste what you dish out?
Weren't you the one who posted something about MWNH here (granted you removed it later but not becase you were wrong). So you can bitch about someone else and feel justified to do so.
When I bitch about someone I am just as justified as you were.
Or like the other times you have bitched about numerous other posters at the BF. You may have had good reason. I too have good reason to bitch about a poster at the BF.
All's fair in love and war.
Thu Dec 6 03:12:58 2001
Hey guys.I understand everyone's beef with eachother. But can't we be civilized?
Meh.
Well gee, AYB, let's see. " resent" vs. "fuck off cocksucker". He had my last post coming to him.
Definitely civil. :rolleyes:
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Quote: This is inaccurate. I asked you on the board and then you indicated that you needed a "formal email request". I sent you the request and you emailed me later on that you needed the headers. I indicated that there weren't any...mistakenly so because I didn't know how to obtain them from the Yahoo mail.
_____________________________________________Not my problem. In the end, I had to explain to you how to use your own web-based mail, and only then did you manage to send me the headers.
:rolleyes: Fuck off. And in the meantime, you and prowlerfuck and every other troll with half a brain posted like little whores.
"I'm going to need an official email." WTF? Like me asking you *publically* in front of OSY AND Ars isn't enough. BtT I had time to compose an "official" email request, it was already next day. But it must of been great feeling on that power trip you were on, huh? Practically covered in jizz from jerk-fest you had over such a power trip.
Quote: But thank you for setting pg and the others right, when the indicated that I fabricated the emails. I mean, it's not like you had the headers in front of you and could have told them to cut the shit out, right?
______________________________________________Of course not.
I didn't see them do anything of the sort. You said that you wanted your posts removed. That, as far as I was aware, was the extent of your demands.
So basically, what you're saying is that you weren't malicious, just lazy and neglectful. You're the mod. If problems are even "rumored" to pop up, you could have taken a quick peek to see how things were. All this crap about you saying you would be a best/better mod and then you disappear when it's convenient. Great.
You're damn right I didn't. What the fuck do you mean by "meet you half way"? You'd sent me some pieces of text that for all I know you wrote yourself. I'm fucked if I'm going to close a thread just because Madan says someone said something mean.
I sent you the fucking headers. And you didn't even check them? Fucking why did I waste my time, then? This is BULLSHIT. This is precisely the reason I left that cesspool. Fucking ill-will and lack of respect are out of control and to top it all off, you wasted my time and even in the face of proof *still* propagandize that I faked it.
What's especially funny is with Venture, pg and seta on that board, it *shouldn't* have to be hard to believe that some demented fuck would send me masked messages. On the bright side, at least he stopped. Good thing too, seeing as how the mod on BF is a joke. :rolleyes:
Quote: Look you grotesque fruit, don't bitch to me about anything. Two days, is not a *long* time and you were asking for the crown fucking jewels: emails/headers...
Crown jewels?
_________________________________________
You're joking, right?If you're not going to send the headers, don't bother. Without the headers, your allegations mean fuck all.
You're so full of SHIT! I SENT YOU THE FUCKING HEADERS!
And it just goes to show what a fucking liar you are because the paragraph you recited about me telling you to "drop it" because time had passed was IN the header email!
Here it is:
[code]
Here's the last piece. The email. No, I haven't
received any other emails. I think they stopped.
Honestly, I'm glad. Airing out the fact that I
received the emails was probably my best move. It kept
anyone from wanting to pursue this. I'm fairly sure
nothing will come of this. In fact, you don't even
have to remove the thread anymore. It's too late for
you to do so anyways...
If he wanted to try something, the person WOULD have.
:/
This email, however, is to prove that I was legit.
Cheers,
M
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And to prove that I'm not full of shit like you, any OSYer that wants it, will get a forward from me...as *proof*.
Now honestly, I could understand if you never received it. But then, how would you know that you wanted me to "drop the issue"?
Quote: and in the end, you never even emailed me back. This, after insinuating that my emails *might* have been fabricated on this very board.
------------------------------------------------------------------They might have. You gave me no way of knowing.
No, I suppose to satisfy you, the formal request, the headers and the material and inuendos on the board weren't enough. You'd need me to mail you the mailer himself. :rolleyes:
Quote: Translation: I'm a whiny bitch that insinuated that he made the whole thing up but was fucking wrong.
Without headers, the e-mails could just has well have come from yourself. There's no way of knowing. I don't imagine that you did send them to yourself -- I am simply telling the truth. Without headers, I can't know if you did or not. Hence, I'm not going to act on them.
I don't give a shit WHAT you act on. I sent them to you. Whether you ignored and deleted the file, accidentally tossed it or simply chose to fuck with my head, YOU were sent that fucking email. So save your rationalizations for someone else.
Quote: But then again, what can you expect from a biased, pompous, over-rated fucklet that bitches and whines like a little bitch about everything. Hell, I've *never* seen an example of greater bitchiness than your "sabatical" from the BF, after Caesar refused to put you on the poll for Mod.________________________________________________________
I dunno. I think it's pretty bitchy to attack me after I tried to help you despite your persistent unwillingness to help yourself. I was concerned about your request, there was a discussion about it in the Mod's Quorum. But the consensus of all was, until you gave me the headers, it would be wrong to take any action. It isn't my fault that you took so long to do so.
And of course, you never gave *them* the headers.
Moreso, you didn't seem interested at all. You seemed slightly amused, slightly annoyed and completely belligerent. Your attitude was: "It's your fault a psycho is fucking with you"
Quote: Do you remember Peter? Me sending you an email telling you not to worry about it? Me telling you that, despite me being a Mac user, I RESPECTED you?You dumping your guts on BF, crying like a little bitch because you didn't get chosen?
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Er... what? Dumping my guts? I think I said more along the lines of, "if MWNH becomes moderator, I'm leaving", or similar.
Uh huh and you compared your skills, experience...etc. Just short of whipping out your dick and comparing it to his too....
To leave because you didn't get mod. Moreso, several threads were open concerning the issue. <sarcasm>Nah, it was *quite* subtle an exit. Moreover, you never gave the impression of complaining....</sarcasm>
Quote: FUCK you Peter. I've been a hella lot more respectful to you than you've *ever* been to me.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Whatever. At this point, I couldn't care less if you respect me or not.
See, that's where we differ. Because I still respect your skills. I just think the person wielding them is full of shit. It's called class, Peter. You might want to grow some, sometime.
Quote: Loser.Mad.
Nice .sig.
You should borrow it. It fits you better.
Mad.
Thu Dec 6 03:22:10 2001
All's fair in love and war.
I prefer love where teh perty wemenz are concerned. :)
Thu Dec 6 03:39:02 2001
And? I'm supposed to bow down in acceptance too?
If Ceaser creates a forum and make rules for what goes where and how people should behave, then he above all should enforce them. Shame on him if he doesn't.
Fuck you hypocrit. Did you see the links that atari posted?
Its clear that if its Microsoft you'll do your job. I'm not saying that you ignore or make it a point to null and void all anti-microsoft threads, but you do make sure that if an anti-microsoft thread is out of place you lock it and suggest moving it to the soap box.
The whole thing with Msoft using deadpeople to lobby politicans is as unethical as Apple using a recent dead person to further their marketing goals. Yet in one you lock and suggest soapbox, in the other you agree and promote the battlefront.
You're so fucking hypocritical and your back peddling is obvious. I'm almost falling of my chair from laughing so hard at your pansy white ass turning round and round like a dog chasing its tail.
Hold on a fucking second. You mean you're stupid? YOU NEED PEOPLE TO EMAIL YOU TO DO SOMETHING? What ever happened to judgement or a GIVEN responsibility to uphold the rules/laws of a web forum? Fuck you and stop trying to divert the issue. You were one of the first people to post there. Your first opinion was that Venture is right (and maybe he is) but you never suggested taking it to the soapbox as you did for other msoft threads.
I don't have to fucking email you. When we voted for a mod, we assumed that we would choose someone who would be fair in any case
But wait. We didn't vote for you did we? Infact a lot of people did say that you would be unfair. And looks like they were right. Too bad that your crocodile tears got you a job you never deserved in the first place, and obviously have shown that you can't shoulder the responsibility for it.
No its apparent you're fucking stupid to see your own double standards. My failure is not my stupidity but my immaturity in getting involved in this entire matter in the first place.
Don't be a sarcastic little fuck. You failed to do your job the first time over a thread where its theme you have shown in the past to have locked.
Only because it involved Apple and I know you enjoy watching 'maclots' or iTards sailivating like mad rabid dogs you let it slide FOR YOUR OWN FUCKING AMMUSEMENT.
Why the fuck should I email YOU. I certianly did not vote for you and I did believe that you would be biased. And guess what you were. You have given no reason to any mac user to trust in you being fair.
I don't expect you to lock every anit-mac thread just because someone emails you to do so, but in light of such examples I'm afraid there simply is no reason to trust you period.
The problem seems to me that you're so desperate to lay the blame on some "platform bias" that you're ignoring that there are other differences in the content of the threads.
How about in short you be a fucking man and grow some balls. You don't like it when you have to taste what you dish out?
Weren't you the one who posted something about MWNH here (granted you removed it later but not becase you were wrong). So you can bitch about someone else and feel justified to do so.
When I bitch about someone I am just as justified as you were.
Or like the other times you have bitched about numerous other posters at the BF. You may have had good reason. I too have good reason to bitch about a poster at the BF.All's fair in love and war.
Thu Dec 6 03:55:11 2001
:rolleyes: Fuck off. And in the meantime, you and prowlerfuck and every other troll with half a brain posted like little whores.
"I'm going to need an official email." WTF? Like me asking you *publically* in front of OSY AND Ars isn't enough.
BtT I had time to compose an "official" email request, it was already next day.
But it must of been great feeling on that power trip you were on, huh? Practically covered in jizz from jerk-fest you had over such a power trip.
So basically, what you're saying is that you weren't malicious, just lazy and neglectful. You're the mod. If problems are even "rumored" to pop up, you could have taken a quick peek to see how things were. All this crap about you saying you would be a best/better mod and then you disappear when it's convenient. Great.
I sent you the fucking headers. And you didn't even check them? Fucking why did I waste my time, then?
This is BULLSHIT. This is precisely the reason I left that cesspool. Fucking ill-will and lack of respect are out of control and to top it all off, you wasted my time and even in the face of proof *still* propagandize that I faked it.
As it is, there's nothing to suggest that the e-mails had *anything* to do with anyone who posts in the Battlefront.
What's especially funny is with Venture, pg and seta on that board, it *shouldn't* have to be hard to believe that some demented fuck would send me masked messages.
On the bright side, at least he stopped. Good thing too, seeing as how the mod on BF is a joke. :rolleyes:
You're so full of SHIT! I SENT YOU THE FUCKING HEADERS!
And it just goes to show what a fucking liar you are because the paragraph you recited about me telling you to "drop it" because time had passed was IN the header email!
And to prove that I'm not full of shit like you, any OSYer that wants it, will get a forward from me...as *proof*.Now honestly, I could understand if you never received it.
But then, how would you know that you wanted me to "drop the issue"?
Because you told me to?
No, I suppose to satisfy you, the formal request, the headers and the material and inuendos on the board weren't enough. You'd need me to mail you the mailer himself. :rolleyes:
I don't give a shit WHAT you act on. I sent them to you. Whether you ignored and deleted the file, accidentally tossed it or simply chose to fuck with my head, YOU were sent that fucking email. So save your rationalizations for someone else.
And of course, you never gave *them* the headers.
Moreso, you didn't seem interested at all. You seemed slightly amused, slightly annoyed and completely belligerent. Your attitude was: "It's your fault a psycho is fucking with you"
See, that's where we differ. Because I still respect your skills. I just think the person wielding them is full of shit. It's called class, Peter. You might want to grow some, sometime.
Thu Dec 6 04:04:24 2001
Venture's post didn't violate those rules.
Yes it did, you're only revising the meaning of the thread to justify your distorted views.
I think that "Microsoft vs. 'The Law'" is not equivalent to "Apple and its relationship with consumers". I think their scope is different, and whilst the former is more appropriate to the Soap Box than the Battlefront, the latter is not.
No it wasn't about Apple and its relationship with the customers. Thats what the thread turned into. Venture's post was about Apple being un-ethical with using a picture of a recently decesed star to promote their brand name. The issue is of ethics not of contention. If you can't see that then you're just turning a blind eye. Just like Microsoft using letters from dead people.
Nope. I didn't read the thread beyond about the first page, either. I didn't find the topic the least bit interesting. But there is no doubt that it belongs in the Battlefront.
(1) It was a somewhat valid issue (albeit borderline).
(2) It was more substantial than a single-line drive-by-troll.
There is NO DOUBT THAT IT DID NOT belong to the BF.
1) I don't disagree about the validity of the issue, for all i know Venture could be right.
2) Be it a drive by troll or not, which it wasn't, the main concern is the nature of the thread and its place at the BF.
You have locked similar threads dealing with Msoft. You choose to seperate the difference only because it makes your decision right. The difference be it towards politicans or consumers is about ethics. If I started a thread about the ethics of rape where do i put it? In the velvet room? Hey rape is a un-requited act of passionate love right? Crude as it may be the issue is hardly content for the Velvet room as is the 'raping of a deceased star' in the BF.
If the centerpiece is ethics then by all reasoning it must be held in a forum designed to discuss ethics. No more no less.
The line is not vauge as you make it sound. You blur it with the parties involved.
Because you think that the threads are equivalent when I do not?
Then explain to me other then re-hashing JB's fallacious arguments. Explain to me in detail how the ethics involved between the govt. and microsoft is different between Apple and its marketing a brand name?
Tell me how one is purely ethical and how the other is purely technical and applies to the platform specifics?
You seem so sure so it should be an easy task.
The problem seems to me that you're so desperate to lay the blame on some "platform bias" that you're ignoring that there are other differences in the content of the threads.
There is no desperation from my side. Inface I have been explaining my self in detail. I haven't been quoting others. I have not even given vauge assertions. I have been clear. You have dodged the issue by diversion of differences and by blurring the lines due the parties involved.
Uh huh. Where have I backpeddled?
Your actions speak of you back peddling. Check out the links provided by Atari. They show you locking threads of a similar nature, only difference is the company involved. One you are in bed with the other you make it a point to disinfranchise any chance you get.
Thu Dec 6 04:04:32 2001
I think that "Microsoft vs. 'The Law'" is not equivalent to "Apple and its relationship with consumers". I think their scope is different, and whilst the former is more appropriate to the Soap Box than the Battlefront, the latter is not.
I think the scope is similar in broader terms. Basically I see it in terms of "Microsoft Misdeeds versus Apple Misdeeds". I think we need to look at it like that in the interest of fairness. The nature of the allegations against each company may be fundamentally different yet the overlaying concept of "is what MS/Apple is doing is wrong?"
I'd rather keep both in the BF.
Thu Dec 6 04:18:55 2001
I have no idea what that means.
Yes it did, you're only revising the meaning of the thread to justify your distorted views.
No it wasn't about Apple and its relationship with the customers.
Thats what the thread turned into. Venture's post was about Apple being un-ethical with using a picture of a recently decesed star to promote their brand name. The issue is of ethics not of contention.
If you can't see that then you're just turning a blind eye. Just like Microsoft using letters from dead people.
There is NO DOUBT THAT IT DID NOT belong to the BF.
1) I don't disagree about the validity of the issue, for all i know Venture could be right.
2) Be it a drive by troll or not, which it wasn't, the main concern is the nature of the thread and its place at the BF.
You have locked similar threads dealing with Msoft. You choose to seperate the difference only because it makes your decision right. The difference be it towards politicans or consumers is about ethics. If I started a thread about the ethics of rape where do i put it? In the velvet room? Hey rape is a un-requited act of passionate love right? Crude as it may be the issue is hardly content for the Velvet room as is the 'raping of a deceased star' in the BF.
If the centerpiece is ethics then by all reasoning it must be held in a forum designed to discuss ethics. No more no less.
The line is not vauge as you make it sound. You blur it with the parties involved.
Then explain to me other then re-hashing JB's fallacious arguments. Explain to me in detail how the ethics involved between the govt. and microsoft is different between Apple and its marketing a brand name?
Tell me how one is purely ethical and how the other is purely technical and applies to the platform specifics?
You seem so sure so it should be an easy task.
There is no desperation from my side. Inface I have been explaining my self in detail. I haven't been quoting others. I have not even given vauge assertions. I have been clear. You have dodged the issue by diversion of differences and by blurring the lines due the parties involved.
Your actions speak of you back peddling. Check out the links provided by Atari. They show you locking threads of a similar nature, only difference is the company involved.
One you are in bed with
the other you make it a point to disinfranchise any chance you get.
Doesn't it tell you anything that Caesar didn't lock it, I didn't lock it, and MWNH didn't lock it? Doesn't that even hint to you that it's not as clear cut as you're making out?
Thu Dec 6 04:31:52 2001
I think the scope is similar in broader terms. Basically I see it in terms of "Microsoft Misdeeds versus Apple Misdeeds". I think we need to look at it like that in the interest of fairness.
Apple's actions are, however, directly related to their business (shifting boxes). Measurements of box-shifting have long been in the Battlefront. Apple's actions are promotion of their product, and have no wider repercussions than them selling more computers. I still see this as being the overriding issue, and not that they're both broadly "ethics" discussions.
The nature of the allegations against each company may be fundamentally different yet the overlaying concept of "is what MS/Apple is doing is wrong?"
Thu Dec 6 06:50:20 2001
"The most important thing is to pick the right opponent."
Why the fuck would you bother to take Peter on in his home court?
Peter: We all know you have rationale reasons for favoring windows, but, that does affect your judgment in your moderation at the Battlefront.
Both of you should remember the hazard of hanging out with a bunch of assholes: you become one of the group.
Fuck the battlefront, and everyone in it.
S
Thu Dec 6 06:58:28 2001
This settlement is going to be intresting, since the finding of facts stands, and, from the legal journals, the number of class action law suits against MSFT are currently in the hundreds, 9 of them by the dissenting states.
Still, MSFT stock rises....
S
Thu Dec 6 07:54:27 2001
rofl
s
Thu Dec 6 08:02:47 2001
PETER B:
Bends over, and takes it in the ass for the whole thread ever going 11 pages.
Great JOB: or should that be: Great blowjob?
s
Thu Dec 6 08:03:48 2001
In conclusion, the above is true.
s
Thu Dec 6 13:16:20 2001
Thu Dec 6 17:23:11 2001
That was the mostest angriest thread I have read anywhere, ever. Thank y'all.
Yer welcome.
Consider yourself amused!
Thu Dec 6 18:09:29 2001
Thu Dec 6 23:03:19 2001
Quote: Fuck off. And in the meantime, you and prowlerfuck and every other troll with half a brain posted like little whores.
No, you fuck off. I'm not your personal moderator, here at your beck and call. I will apply the same standards to you as anyone else who e-mails me with a problem of the kind you had. You're not the first, I'm sure you won't be the last.
(1) Correspondance to mods@arstechnica.com
(2) Full details on e.g. e-mails.
Yes, mods can't see a public post on Ars. And I *didn't* send you the email 2 days later. Please. I did all of the above.
You serve the Wintel assholes like Venture, bash, EM, BFG, seta and Echohead2.
It's precisely the reason I left that shithole. Look at bash's new post. Or the argument that Echohead was having about the iMac for emails.
The *DUMBEST* most biased Wintarded comments are treated as scripture in that place. It's insane.
Christ, you could have just copy and pasted it, it wouldn't have mattered. I honestly don't understand why you posted here instead of e-mailing from the outset.
Because you were *on* here at the time.
Quote: So basically, what you're saying is that you weren't malicious, just lazy and neglectful. You're the mod. If problems are even "rumored" to pop up, you could have taken a quick peek to see how things were. All this crap about you saying you would be a best/better mod and then you disappear when it's convenient. Great.
I have a job, Madan; I can't afford to read through every post of a thread just because you make some vague claims about e-mails (without even providing me evidence enough to know who to believe).
Vague claims? Gee, I guess it would take something pretty serious to capture your attention. You know, like a pro-Mac, *Nix, Be argument. :rolleyes: Save it for someone that believes you.
I do nothing of the sort. I haven't said that you faked it, anywhere. I have said, repeatedly, that without the headers I have absolutely no idea who is responsible for such e-mails.
You *have* the headers. But I really appreciate the way you keep ambiguously ringing: " I have no idea who is responsible", as if it were possibly me and not prowlerfuck or seta: troll of the year.
As it is, there's nothing to suggest that the e-mails had *anything* to do with anyone who posts in the Battlefront.
Oh yeah, you read the emails. :rolleyes:
Quote: What's especially funny is with Venture, pg and seta on that board, it *shouldn't* have to be hard to believe that some demented fuck would send me masked messages.
It doesn't appear to have been any one of them.
And how the fuck would you know. Did you even bother to look around? Of course not.
Quote: You're so full of SHIT! I SENT YOU THE FUCKING HEADERS!
But it was far too late.
Far too late? I mod with a brain would have said:
"Gee Madan, I guess you *WERE* being emailed. I looked at the headers and, well, I know that removing the posts would be moot, since you mentioned it was too late but let's lock the thread anyways, since everyone's gotten to hot under the collar."
Then, on the board, would have indicated that insults and lying were not to be tolerated.
But yeah, that's what a *real* mod with BALLS would do. Not some someone that just wants the position for the power.
(1) Madan sends PeterB e-mails minus headers
(2) PeterB asks for headers, stating that the e-mails could have come from any source, and that without them there was nothing he could do
(3) Madan says he can't send the headers
(4) PeterB explains how to get the headers
(5) Madan sends the headers, but says it's too late and no longer matters.
Lets amend this, shall we?
1) Madan participates in a thread that has gone ballistic because the moderator is letting havoc ensue in the thread.
2) Madan receives a threatening email that has no visible email origination and, noticing that Peter, is on OSY, asks Peter to remove his *personal* posts or the material that is personal from the board.
3) Peter insinuates that it is Madan's fault for using experience and his career on Ars and indicates that a formal request for removal must be submitted by email.
3) Madan sends PeterB e-mails minus headers the next day.
(2) PeterB asks for headers later that day, stating that the e-mails could have come from any source, and that without them there was nothing he could do
(3) Madan says he can't send the headers.
(4) PeterB explains how to get the headers.
(5) Madan sends the headers the next day, but says it's too late and no longer matters because two days have passed.
6) Madan makes it known on the thread that Peter has been given the Headers.
7) Prowlerfuck and others indicate that it was fabricated. Mutual chaos continues. Lies concerning insults ensue.
8) Peter pops in the thread three days later to indicate that "everyone should cool down" and continues to allow the hatefest to proceed. Peter never dispells the lie that prowlerfuck affirmed: "Madan received no emails", despite the headers were sitting in his inbox.
9) Peter fails to mention threatening emails in the thread and never addresses emails as a problem to the board.
Quote: See, that's where we differ. Because I still respect your skills. I just think the person wielding them is full of shit. It's called class, Peter. You might want to grow some, sometime.
You might want to not attack those who tried to help you. I did, you know. I just needed more than the bodies of the e-mails to act on.
Yeah, you helped me lots Peter. After all, prowlerguy ate serious crow when you confirmed the email's validity. You stepped in and indicated that insults were not to be tolerated on the board *AND* you *definitely* made an "A+".
Oh wait, you didn't do *ANY* of that.
Thanks, great help.
Madan.
Thu Dec 6 23:57:31 2001
Yes, mods can't see a public post on Ars. And I *didn't* send you the email 2 days later. Please. I did all of the above.
You should have sent an e-mail to mods@arstechnica.com with the headers as the FIRST thing you did. Not the last. Do you not understand that?
You serve the Wintel assholes like Venture, bash, EM, BFG, seta and Echohead2.
It's precisely the reason I left that shithole. Look at bash's new post. Or the argument that Echohead was having about the iMac for emails.The *DUMBEST* most biased Wintarded comments are treated as scripture in that place. It's insane.
Because you were *on* here at the time.
So? Caesar wasn't. MWNH wasn't. The other moderators weren't.
So again, why on earth did you post here?
Vague claims? Gee, I guess it would take something pretty serious to capture your attention. You know, like a pro-Mac, *Nix, Be argument. :rolleyes: Save it for someone that believes you.
You *have* the headers. But I really appreciate the way you keep ambiguously ringing: " I have no idea who is responsible", as if it were possibly me and not prowlerfuck or seta: troll of the year.
And how the fuck would you know. Did you even bother to look around? Of course not.
Far too late?
So, yes, too late.
I mod with a brain would have said:
"Gee Madan, I guess you *WERE* being emailed. I looked at the headers and, well, I know that removing the posts would be moot, since you mentioned it was too late but let's lock the thread anyways, since everyone's gotten to hot under the collar."
Then, on the board, would have indicated that insults and lying were not to be tolerated.
But yeah, that's what a *real* mod with BALLS would do. Not some someone that just wants the position for the power.
If you cared that much, you'd have e-mailed mods@arstechnica.com.
Lets amend this, shall we?
1) Madan participates in a thread that has gone ballistic because the moderator is letting havoc ensue in the thread.
2) Madan receives a threatening email that has no visible email origination
and, noticing that Peter, is on OSY, asks Peter to remove his *personal* posts or the material that is personal from the board.
3) Peter insinuates that it is Madan's fault for using experience and his career on Ars and indicates that a formal request for removal must be submitted by email.
3) Madan sends PeterB e-mails minus headers the next day.
(2) PeterB asks for headers later that day, stating that the e-mails could have come from any source, and that without them there was nothing he could do
(3) Madan says he can't send the headers.
(4) PeterB explains how to get the headers.
(5) Madan sends the headers the next day, but says it's too late and no longer matters because two days have passed.
6) Madan makes it known on the thread that Peter has been given the Headers.
7) Prowlerfuck and others indicate that it was fabricated. Mutual chaos continues. Lies concerning insults ensue.
8) Peter pops in the thread three days later to indicate that "everyone should cool down" and continues to allow the hatefest to proceed. Peter never dispells the lie that prowlerfuck affirmed: "Madan received no emails", despite the headers were sitting in his inbox.
9) Peter fails to mention threatening emails in the thread and never addresses emails as a problem to the board.
Yeah, you helped me lots Peter. After all, prowlerguy ate serious crow when you confirmed the email's validity. You stepped in and indicated that insults were not to be tolerated on the board *AND* you *definitely* made an "A+".
I'm sorry, but is that what this is all about? That someone offended you by calling you a liar?
Grow the fuck up for christ's sake.
Oh wait, you didn't do *ANY* of that.
Fri Dec 7 01:35:47 2001
I don't agree with your conclusions.
None the less I don't much care. Add to that I'm not the type of person to hold on to shit for to long.
I'd rather be silly.
So anyways just keep in mind that I respect your intelligence, i just don't respect your choices as a moderator. But thats my opinion which is all it is. ;)
So i'm going to head back to OSY and be silly once again!
show me the money bitch!
Fri Dec 7 01:49:18 2001
So i'm going to head back to OSY and be silly once again!
Heh, OW doesn't even know where he is! :)
Fri Dec 7 02:46:40 2001
Fri Dec 7 03:43:19 2001
You're all fucktards.
:)
Fri Dec 7 12:51:12 2001
"because I didn't read the thread..."
"didn't read the thread.."
Yes, we've established that. As the mod, you should have been. There was plenty indication from me and OTHERS that the thread should have been locked.
Good job putting the pants on.
But yeah, regale me again with stories about how you helped me.
:rolleyes:
Oh, and yes, calling me a liar bothered me. A lot. But then, it bothers you too. Anyone has just to see your responses like "cocksucker" to know that.
madan
Sun Dec 9 01:12:02 2001
s
Fri Mar 8 01:00:31 2002
Fuck off, die, rot, and then be of use to the world.
I will help ANYONE who asks for it, for no charge, no nothing, even you...
(Edited by Evil Merlin at 5:04 pm on Mar. 7, 2002)
Fri Mar 8 02:46:59 2002
Fri Mar 8 05:16:00 2002
<demonstrates by strumming his ukelele)
There, doesn't everyone feel better now? I know I do.
Fri Mar 8 05:36:44 2002
Whoa! You people really need to relax. I suggest strumming the ukelele.
yeah EM, especially since Madan said this three months ago.
"Can't we all be brothers?"
;)
Fri Mar 8 12:26:00 2002
Oh no, EM...I'm so hurt.
Listen, noone would give you a hard time if you *actually* made a point once and awhile. Not trying to be a jerk, let me just say you *don't*. EVER.
So get lost.
M.
Fri Mar 8 15:54:46 2002
Muhahahah!
Think what you will. Like I am at all concerned that you get all bent out of shape by my posts...
Heh
Fri Mar 8 19:40:05 2002
Profile for Evil Merlin- [ Edit ] | [ Delete ]
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Could this be Evil Merlin's evil twin?
Different email addy, different IP. You be the judge.
Fri Mar 8 19:40:43 2002
Fri Mar 8 19:46:08 2002
:)
BTW, this can't be the real Evil_Merlin; two whole posts and he hasn't said "Fucktard" even once. ;)
Fri Mar 8 19:47:17 2002
Fri Mar 8 19:55:12 2002
That would be funny indeed! :)
Fri Mar 8 21:42:37 2002
from AllYorBaseRBelong2Us posted at 2:55 pm on Mar. 8, 2002
Better yet, we should do an in-house parody of OSY deziens.That would be funny indeed! :)
Wot!? We're not silly enough already? :confused:
;)
Fri Mar 8 21:44:59 2002
from AllYorBaseRBelong2Us posted at 2:46 pm on Mar. 8, 2002
Ya know, it may be quite interesting to create names based off of BF personalities and then make one massive parody.
My rectum wanted to parody Fester Blatt, but after reading some of FB's posts (not to mention his previous personae), my rectum decided it didn't want to be associated with such an asshole.
<rimshot>
Fri Mar 8 21:45:20 2002
Wot!? We're not silly enough already?
Always room for improvement. ;)
Fri Mar 8 23:31:01 2002
Sat Mar 9 00:43:16 2002
The one the only...
New IP address. I rotate them every couple of months...
New name EvilMerlin was just wrong looking... plus I forgot my password... =)
Sat Mar 9 03:59:17 2002
Sat Mar 9 04:18:10 2002