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ATI == Bastards

AllYorBaseRBelong2Us

Thu Oct 25 00:25:07 2001

http://arstechnica.infopop.net/OpenTopic/page?a=tpc&s=50009562&f=67909965&m=3280918992

Maybe ATI was a Mistake.

Gosh I wish Matrox would license NVidia chipsets and make a Videocard to end all videocards.

Riso

Thu Oct 25 13:58:14 2001

1) ATI's not the first to do that
2) everything from crapidia sucks.
AllYorBaseRBelong2Us

Thu Oct 25 15:40:09 2001

1) ATI seems to do it more pervasively and have such a history of sucktacularity as it stands.

2) Nvidia's drivers have far less sucktacularity, so they are at least admonished from this.

3) I have emailed Matrox with an industry changing suggestion.  This one email will change the world.

yes.

HitScan

Thu Oct 25 15:47:29 2001

It wouldn't be a big deal at all if they released 2 sets of drivers. They should have a "normal" and "unsupported but faster" option. I think they may already do this on their site. I'd play with the normal ones because I bought a Radeon to play with all the features fucking cranked, not some damned half-assed "It looks almost as good, pinky-swear!" Fuck that with a 4 foot spiked dildo.
Socrates

Thu Oct 25 19:27:22 2001

ATI has been fine on a mac.

Remember, this is a rare time for card makers.

MSFT is putting out a bunch of new os, the mac is making
it's biggest change ever, and they aren't selling cards, thanks to a depression.
The end result is too few people, trying to write drivers
for constantly changing os.

ATI has, in the past, on macs, had adequate drivers, even
if they took a long time to change.

Also, their cards have lasted forever on the mac side, even if a bit on the expensive side.

gs

Madan

Thu Oct 25 20:43:58 2001

Yes, ATI has also been great on my iFruit.

Never had problems with my ATI card.

ever.

M.

HitScan

Thu Oct 25 21:14:00 2001

Actually, I heard a rumor that ATI may sell their chips to other card makers. (something about a "Made by ATI!" sticker on [H]ard OCP's review) That would just rock my world, as it would mean that anyone who wanted could take ATI's silicon, and make truely kick ass level drivers for it. Does no one else have w00d?
AllYorBaseRBelong2Us

Thu Oct 25 21:23:43 2001

In that case Hitscan, I fear that the individual board manufacturer's Drivers will only be as good as the reference drivers from ATI.
Riso

Thu Oct 25 22:16:54 2001

Name one company which uses crapidia chips but not their drivers.


Hint: none.

Only STB did that back in the Detonator 2 days.

HitScan

Thu Oct 25 22:42:34 2001

I'll grant you, they wouldn't necessarily have to change or improve anything in the drivers, BUT, if you've got this ref driver from a company WHOSE SOLE CLAIM TO INFAMY is wretched drivers, would you not take the chance to fix up the drivers, and give people a reason to buy their cards over the others with shitty drivers?

Of course, the other side of said coin is that ATI doesn't give a shit anymore because they'd just let others do the final driver finshing, their ref drivers might get REALLY bad. :eek:

DuffMan

Fri Oct 26 00:01:20 2001

That's it. I'm going back to using my 4Mb Matrox PCI video card.
Imitation Gruel

Fri Oct 26 01:44:02 2001

I think my next computer will have whatever card Matrox makes as a follow-up to the G550.

I don't need breakneck 3d speed, but I do want flawless or near-flawless 2d.

Socrates

Fri Oct 26 03:49:55 2001

IG:
Are the matrox cards that good?
I've used:
Voodoo 5500, TNT 2,Kyro 2,and the Geoforce 2mx.

How does it compare?

Socrates

Imitation Gruel

Fri Oct 26 04:03:35 2001

I have never seen better 2d than from Matrox cards. To use one of them with an ultra high-quality CRT, like the Sony GDM-FW900, is simply orgasmic. In a manner of speaking.

Pity they don't make a fast gaming card; they'd take over the industry inside of a fortnight.

Riso

Fri Oct 26 13:08:15 2001

Ph34r teh 400mhz Radeon 8500 Ramdac.
Harbinger

Fri Oct 26 16:53:51 2001

ATi = meh.

;)

Imitation Gruel

Sat Oct 27 00:53:45 2001

ATi = meh.

More like: ATi = ass.

Riso

Sat Oct 27 11:55:22 2001

More like:

ATI = meh = ass

Imitation Gruel

Sat Oct 27 14:59:15 2001

More like:

ATI = meh = ass

Riso nailed it.

Riso

Sat Oct 27 17:11:11 2001

I'll even going to buy a Radeon.

You can then use Ass instead of Riso ;P

HitScan

Sat Oct 27 17:43:35 2001

from Imitation Gruel posted at 7:59 am on Oct. 27, 2001

More like:

ATI = meh = ass

Riso nailed it.

Hehehe, knowing Riso's stance on ATi cards, I wonder if you've got the order of operations right on his equation IG ;)