Wed Oct 3 15:07:17 2001

Go there. This man is my HERO. even has a pistol version that can fire 3 rounds in 1/500th of a second.

A firing of this thing

reduces 15 solid wood doors to nothing in 2/10ths of a second. That gives me w00d. Oh yes.

Wed Oct 3 16:16:37 2001

from HitScan posted at 5:07 pm on Oct. 3, 2001

http://www.wired.com/news/conflict/0,2100,46570,00.html

Go there. This man is my HERO. even has a pistol version that can fire 3 rounds in 1/500th of a second.

A firing of this thing
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reduces 15 solid wood doors to nothing in 2/10ths of a second. That gives me w00d. Oh yes.

A sec after you pushed the trigger you can reload.

Oh wait, you can bring it just with you.
It's a fucking useless stationary gun.
I wanna see how that thing tries to stop a tank.

Wed Oct 3 16:20:59 2001

But it's [color=blue][size=15]COOL[/size][/color] nonetheless.

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Wed Oct 3 16:29:37 2001

do you see where i'm leading with this?

Wed Oct 3 16:31:30 2001

Since you seem to take offence to my including a picture of it:

UnF. :biggrin:

Wed Oct 3 16:38:53 2001

Its an impressive sight. How do they keep it cool? I be the gun can't be fired for to long. Wouldn't the barrel melt? Along with other parts of the gun just wearing out very fast?

(Edited by OscarWilde at 9:39 am on Oct. 3, 2001)

Wed Oct 3 16:43:23 2001

Wed Oct 3 16:47:10 2001

Wed Oct 3 17:03:03 2001

Riso, I don't think it would make much difference if the thing was firing hardened steel armor piercing bullets at that rate. At the very least, things would be massively fucked up and give the driver a reason to think twice about the whole thing.

As for reloading/practicality, I think the easiest way to handle that would be interchangable barrells. That way, you burn through one (literally ;) ) and just replace it with a new one ready to go. Since it's all electronic, there's little to wear out or replace. I like it :)

Wed Oct 3 18:35:28 2001

Wed Oct 3 19:10:58 2001

I'm not much into shooting game, unless they decide to change the rules, but, these are very cool handguns.

Ammo avaliable here, and, for what you get, it's cheap:
http://www.buffalobore.com/

My favorite rifles:

http://www.bowenclassicarms.com/rifles.html

When I have lots of money, but probably not.  By the time I have the money my shoulder will be too brittle to shot a nitro or gibbs.

Socrates

Wed Oct 3 19:26:37 2001

Suffice to say, it took 5 shots, starting at a distance of 25 yards, and the buffalo died pretty much at his feet.

The Buff was going to kill him for invading their territory.

Couple intresting notes.  They tell you to shoot the buffalo in the nose as he charges.   What they don't tell you is the nose is going up and down, at a very high rate of speed, as he charges.  His brain is protected by the ends of those massive horns, so he has armor platting that very few bullets will get through.

The pistol was a custom 5 shot 45 on a Seville frame, made by a group of pistol smiths that split off from ruger.
It is one of the best frames every made.
However, when you use these very heavy loads, the gun kicks so much it throws the cylinder out of sync.  So, between every shot, Ross had to take his fingers, and line the cylinder up with the barrel before firing the next shot.
Not a big deal, if you know about it, but the first time you fire the gun with a few of these rounds, it's a serious wake up call.  How big a deal it is with a Cape buffalo the size of a large volkswagen charging is another story.

Ross was the world combat pistol champ, and he also works as a white hunter, in Africa, when he's not working for guns and Ammo.

He can shoot.

Socrates

Thu Oct 4 17:29:09 2001

Thu Oct 4 18:01:52 2001

from Imitation Gruel posted at 7:29 pm on Oct. 4, 2001

1-gauge.

What is a 1-gauge?

Thu Oct 4 19:33:28 2001

Even the most advanced ceramic and reactive armours are breachable if the bullet is travelling fast enough.

Fri Oct 5 22:03:03 2001

They would also knock down most anything they hit.
The problem was being able to hold them on target, and pull the trigger.  Fear of recoil can be a terrible thing...

Socrates

Sat Oct 6 02:25:57 2001

Sat Oct 6 03:01:00 2001

Big handguns are cool, but fairly impractical really. I prefer a smaller 9 mil for target practice.

But then again, I am also not that good either. Being a good shot takes time and dedication, which I'm missing a lot of lately.

Sun Oct 7 03:39:11 2001

Let's see if I can put it in perspective.  I think a full house 12 gauge kicks about 35 ft-lbs of energy, and that's a big jolt.  A full on Weatherby 378 is about 70 ft-lbs, and a 458 is about 105 ft-lbs.  A Nitro 577 is around 120 ft-lbs, with about a 900 grain bullet, and the 4-8 bores go from around 135-200 ft-lbs of energy.  Other people call these mortars;-)
The beauty of these old british guns was a huge bullet, wide, and heavy, at moderate velocity, actually carried enough force to knock down elephants, and cape buffalo, or lion, without hitting a vital organ.

I think the 2-4 bore bullets approached 2000 grains, but I don't have any reloading books around for reference.

I don't like 9 mm for a simple reason.  It's hard to get the little bullets in the press, and seat them right.  They have a tendency to misalign, and the case sides bend.

I've talked with lots of guys who can shoot, and a real problem with heavy guns is you start to flinch, anticipating recoil.  A 22 is a great gun for target practice, since you don't have any recoil, and then you break out the heavy guns for about 20 rounds, to get used to the recoil.  10 rounds can be enough, too.

Ross's 45 caliber PISTOL kicks with about the same force as a 375 Magnum rifle, 70 ft=lbs of energy.  The good news is lots of the recoil is absorbed in an upward direction, wrenching on your hand, so it's not as bad as it sounds.

Socrates
PS my figures are from memory, so they may not be percise, but I think I've captured the relative relationships pretty well.

Sun Oct 7 05:34:03 2001