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 Post subject: Blizzard now worse then the taliban!
PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:21 pm 
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Mother fucking son of a fucking whore! Fuck! So I finally download StarCraft II and fire it up. What do I get? A damn chinese installer. I fucking chose English and I get the game in Chinese. And I can't find any where to change to english. Add to that all, the game dialog is in Mandarin. I googled and they said to choose US english or blah blah, but that don't work because they do it by IP and I'm forced to the chinese website - including the tech support which is in chinese.

MOTHER FUCKER! God damn! Fuck!

Sorry, just frustrated. I trashed the installer and the game and am now considering Blizzard a terrorist entity. I hope the people that decided that the only language spoken in Asia is Mandarin get fucking raped and shot. Fucking whore bags!

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 Post subject: Re: Blizzard now worse then the taliban!
PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:19 pm 
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I don't pretend to know the HK situation, but I do know China has given Blizz hell in the past such that they play nice... apparently gold farmers pay for a lot of accounts. :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Blizzard now worse then the taliban!
PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:04 am 
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http://www.geoexpat.com/forum/thread130865.html

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmes ... _id=112879

It's a hell of a good game; I hope you get it working.

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 Post subject: Re: Blizzard now worse then the taliban!
PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:42 pm 
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"But but but... Blizz si the ebil corparat monstar! SC2 sucks because Blizz doesn't want racist, sexist, and every other -ist maps/mods out there, though of course we claim this is a freedom issue."

Every time I read Ars lately, I remember why I stopped.

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<Paolo|Work> anything that has to do with Java is by definition stupid

1 The Network is my domain, I shall not want; 2 though it makes me wait upon collision, it leads me to the Internet; 3 it restores my connection. It leads me in paths of hypertext transfer for google's sake. 4 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of power failures, I fear no data corruption; for backups art with me; thy UPS and thy status light, they comfort me. 5 Thou preparest a firewall before me in the presence of my enemies; thou anointest my CD-R with BurnProof, my buffer never underflows. 6 Surely good deals and pr0n shall follow me all the days of my life; and I shall dwell in the house of the Datacenter for ever.
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 Post subject: Re: Blizzard now worse then the taliban!
PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:11 pm 
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Yeah, I have little time for the Ars forum discussions any more. Now, it might be interesting to have a serious philosophical discussion about how Blizzard has changed as a company as they have grown, or whether Activision has encouraged them to look for more revenue streams, but such a discussion would never be possible. It just winds up with trolling and flaming.

For me, I mean, it's a GAME, come on, you either play it or you don't. For example, I thought the thing with the $25 translucent gay unicorn mount in WoW was a bit much, especially when the next day you walk around Dalaran and there are hundreds of these things, but it didn't somehow spoil the whole game for me. But will Blizzard's next game go for more of a pay-for-each-shiny model? And is that necessarily a bad thing?

And with Starcraft, I'm finding it fascinating how Blizzard really wants to force the issue with creating a pro gaming league in Korea that is open to anyone (see here) and just throwing money at it like there is no tomorrow, despite how the original Korean Starcraft pro scene developed all on its own without Blizzard doing much of anything. But the last time there was a Starcraft thread on the front page of Ars, it was all trolls all the time.

Anyway, I'm really enjoying Starcraft 2's single-player missions so far. They are a hell of a lot of fun, and there's tons of replayability in trying to get all the achievements. Then there's endless multiplayer fun coming up after I finish that. What's not to love?

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 Post subject: Re: Blizzard now worse then the taliban!
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I don't see the problem with optional things like unicorns or vanity pets (heck, I got my wife one of the Pandaren pets during the charity drive) for extra. It certainly doesn't affect my enjoyment either way, and again, it's optional. There's not even achievements for those items to mess with a perfectionist like me. :D

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<Paolo|Work> anything that has to do with Java is by definition stupid

1 The Network is my domain, I shall not want; 2 though it makes me wait upon collision, it leads me to the Internet; 3 it restores my connection. It leads me in paths of hypertext transfer for google's sake. 4 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of power failures, I fear no data corruption; for backups art with me; thy UPS and thy status light, they comfort me. 5 Thou preparest a firewall before me in the presence of my enemies; thou anointest my CD-R with BurnProof, my buffer never underflows. 6 Surely good deals and pr0n shall follow me all the days of my life; and I shall dwell in the house of the Datacenter for ever.
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 Post subject: Re: Blizzard now worse then the taliban!
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Jeremy Reimer wrote:
http://www.geoexpat.com/forum/thread130865.html

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmes ... _id=112879

It's a hell of a good game; I hope you get it working.


Did you read the link you posted? The Geoexpat didn't load for me but the other link loaded, and it's the same problem I had. Blizzard has decided that in SE Asia no one speaks and reads english.
As for the ars forums and trolling, I don't give a bears poo about the ars forum.

I loved Warcraft and I just want to check out StarCraft. That's it really. I'm just upset the whole process is so complicated, that it's gotten to the point where on OSY I have to get outside links just to get a game to play in english. You gotta admit that's just stupid beyond any measure. Damn it! I'm still upset. What the fuck is up with Blizzard that I can't get a fucking game to play in my choice of language. Why the fuck is Blizzard forcing this shit on me?

Anyway, am glad you guys are enjoying Starcraft. I'm probably gonna go back and try to finish COD MW2 in hard or extreme mode. Man was single player mode short. I started the game after dinner and finished it around midnight. Shortest. Game. Ever!

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 Post subject: Re: Blizzard now worse then the taliban!
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Jeremy Reimer wrote:
Then there's endless multiplayer fun coming up after I finish that. What's not to love?


Region locked multiplayer :(

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 Post subject: Re: Blizzard now worse then the taliban!
PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:28 am 
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Riso wrote:
Jeremy Reimer wrote:
Then there's endless multiplayer fun coming up after I finish that. What's not to love?


Region locked multiplayer :(



Are you for real? That means if I ever decide to forgive the terrorist group known as Blizzard and get Star Craft II in english somehow, I'm gonna be stuck playing MP with locals that speak in Mandarin or in broken engrish? Here is a real example of bad engrish from a facebook update from a local friend of mine:

"I hate ppl shout ot me, i am not a dog!!! this kind of ppl won't be my friend!"
"After i went to Paris , i saw too much nice painting!! So i want to learn oil painting so much! so this is what i did! "

I'm not mocking my friends or anyone that speaks engrish - for one I can barely speak cantonese and I was born and raised in HK - so kudos to anyone that learns a second language. That being said, engrish is pretty hard to understand. I spend so much effort trying to decipher what my local friends say. The above examples are easy to understand, but can you imagine the engrish during a MP game? :shock:

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OscarWilde wrote:
Riso wrote:
Jeremy Reimer wrote:
Then there's endless multiplayer fun coming up after I finish that. What's not to love?


Region locked multiplayer :(



Are you for real? That means if I ever decide to forgive the terrorist group known as Blizzard and get Star Craft II in english somehow, I'm gonna be stuck playing MP with locals that speak in Mandarin or in broken engrish?


Well not quite. Blizzard has changed their minds and will let you play in America.

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/07/starcr ... -australia

Q: Who is eligible to play on the North American servers?
A: All players, including those in the regions of Hong Kong and Macau, who purchase the English Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand Standard or Collector’s Edition of StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty will have the option of playing on the North American Battle.net® servers in addition to the Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand servers if they prefer.

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 Post subject: Re: Blizzard now worse then the taliban!
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The region lock multiplayer thing is kind of bullshit... but I'm hoping that goes away soon.

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 Post subject: Re: Blizzard now worse then the taliban!
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Riso wrote:

Q: Who is eligible to play on the North American servers?
A: All players, including those in the regions of Hong Kong and Macau, who purchase the English Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand Standard or Collector’s Edition of StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty will have the option of playing on the North American Battle.net® servers in addition to the Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand servers if they prefer.


Does it say how to purchase? I signed up to Blizzard but as I said already, I can't get anywhere on Blizzard without being constantly sent to the mandarin tech site. It's the most frustrating thing ever. Short of going to a store to buy a physical copy I don't know what else to do.

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Jeremy Reimer wrote:
The region lock multiplayer thing is kind of bullshit... but I'm hoping that goes away soon.
It will as soon as Bobby Kotick decides how much to charge.

I'm not usually given to rants, but fuck Morhaime for agreeing to Activision tentacle-raping Blizzard.

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It seems like the professional players are getting around the limitation by just purchasing a copy of the game for each region they want to play in, which makes it seem like more of a money-grab than anything else.

But the competitive scene that is rising up around SC2 is really cool. All of today I've been watching a livestream--literally all day long--where this guy is casting live games in the qualifiers of a $10,000 North American prize pool tournament. The games have been incredible to watch. One guy had four Hellions with the blue flame upgrade dropshipped into his base, and lost *17 PROBES*, which is just... there is no fucking way you come back from that. Except he kept crawling back.. slowly... slowly.. slowly... and the game ended with him launching a mother fucking MOTHERSHIP and taking his army across the map to destroy the Terran. It was so awesome! And seeing it happening live was even better.

It's a bit weird, though, even though this tournament is North American entrants only, there are US-born players living in Korea who entered (Idra and Artosis, the top non-Korean SC player in Korea who plays for the CJ Entus team, and a top caster who lives in Korea) and there was one guy who was born in Korea but lives in the US. They must have all purchased North American region-locked versions of the game.

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The really neat thing about the SC2 tournament scene is how grassroots it is. You can go on teamliquid.net and see any number of people casting tournaments, all the way from students in dorms creating their own tourneys with $100 prize pools to the aforementioned $10,000 tournament.

Yet even in the higher level ones, there is a great deal of personalization in the way they are organized. The guy (BigT) who is casting the one I was watching has his own Livestream, with its own chat room. He asks questions about which games he should cast yet, and you can talk to him in the chat. The funniest part is between games when he goes on Facebook and adds everyone who friended him--which is a lot of people--all while making funny comments on their Facebook picture. "Hat guy.. guy with beard guy... scary looking guy... fake girl guy..."

It's fun to watch.

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Out of morbid curiousity, I did a bit more digging, and since it's the OSY way to post again rather than edit...

I take back my cursing Morhaime, and redirect it to his French overlords at Vivendi, who thought partnering with Activision would help them compete with EA. How naive of me to think that simply producing superior products was good enough...

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1 The Network is my domain, I shall not want; 2 though it makes me wait upon collision, it leads me to the Internet; 3 it restores my connection. It leads me in paths of hypertext transfer for google's sake. 4 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of power failures, I fear no data corruption; for backups art with me; thy UPS and thy status light, they comfort me. 5 Thou preparest a firewall before me in the presence of my enemies; thou anointest my CD-R with BurnProof, my buffer never underflows. 6 Surely good deals and pr0n shall follow me all the days of my life; and I shall dwell in the house of the Datacenter for ever.
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