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HitScan

Tue Jun 4 19:06:08 2002

I inherited (for $10) a Logicraft SCSI 14 unit CD Server Tower. Sans mobo. I have a CPU cooler, CPU, stick of RAM, NIC, 2 SCSI cards, and sound card. The trouble is thus: These things are so ancient that only an AT mobo will fit. I know it used to be possible to purchase AT form mobos with ATX form factor extenders that fit in a case slot. I haven't been able to find such a motherboard for procurement all damn day. The reason I want one with an ATX extension is that it has to support a Celeron 400 or so. I've only heard of 2 people that make such a beast: Pine and ProComp. Both are Ass. Neither's product can be found available for purchase.

So, perusers, lurkers, and silliness lords of OSY: Have you seen such an odd beast for sale? Have you an extra at home? Is my quest in vain?

Jeremy Reimer

Tue Jun 4 20:29:17 2002

I remember trying to figure out how to do this back in the day when I moved from my Pentium 100 (formerly 486-33, formerly 386-25) AT machine to my P3 ATX box. I eventually just gave up and bought a new case. Sorry if that doesn't help. :(

HitScan

Tue Jun 4 21:50:55 2002

Well, this case is 3 feet tall and full of 14 Plextor 4X SCSI drives. A new case isn't a likely option. ;)
However, I may just break down and find an ancient dual P1 board (what it originally had) somewhere on Ebay or something. Ah well. Like I said though, $10 and it came with all that other good shit. :D (It is all of course, new. :) )

Harbinger

Wed Jun 5 19:39:23 2002

AT form mobos with ATX form factor extenders that fit in a case slot

I don't understand what this means. (I can't picture it.) The whole "with ATX form factor extenders" threw me for a loop.

Are you looking for an AT mobo that takes PII-level CPUs (Slot 1, most likely), or is it a special form-factor (like a blade)?

For that matter, why exactly is it necessary to use the Celly 400?

HitScan

Wed Jun 5 20:41:33 2002

I want to use the celeron because I already have it, it came with the thing for free. :)

ATX Form extenders are like the old mobos where the Paralell and serial ports were on adapter card brackets and took up a case slot without having a card in the mobo, and a cable snaking off somewhere else on the mobo. ATX extenders have a PS/2 mouse port and USB connectors on them. This isn't important really, but it will likely come with any mobo new enough to use a celeron.

So yeah, it has to fit an AT bolt-down pattern, and use AT power connectors, and use a celeron. This is incredibly difficult to find. :)

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