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Can you actually win an online argument ?

Stainless

Wed May 8 18:23:26 2002

JR made a comment on the BF about this.

Now I know this isn't impossible, but are there an examples from the BF?

The closest I've been to having the other person admit defeat is PDampier over vendor lock in.

Madan

Wed May 8 18:49:39 2002

It *IS* impossible because there is no fair set of arbitration  that can make logical, unbiased, well-thought out decisions on  who the "winnAr" is.

I've argued a hundred and one times with Venture on Ars about what AppleWorks can do, for example, and not once has he turned around and said, "uh, gee, in that case, it looks like you're right".

Look at the entire prowlerguy fiasco. Even when you're beating someone over the head with the truth(myself included), simply *not surrendering and twisting the RDF/FUD* is enough to prevent defeat.

M.

AllYorBaseRBelong2Us

Wed May 8 18:50:26 2002

Some people are all too dense.  Some people like to claim victory without even bothering to find out the whole story.  Some people are rather intellegent, but lack the objectivity to wield it properly.
HitScan

Wed May 8 21:30:28 2002

You can offer to send them a Christmas ham and pepper their house with letterbombs instead, but beyond that I daresay there's no definitive "win" or "lose" in an argument online. (unless someone is flat out lying and gets called on it by several people, that's what we call a "lose", heh)
Stainless

Wed May 8 21:58:21 2002

It isn't impossible, the other person can concede.

It might be impossible with Venture and a few others since they will just ignore the point or some other stonewall tactic.

(Edited by Stainless at 3:58 pm on May 8, 2002)

Jeremy Reimer

Wed May 8 22:35:54 2002


It isn't impossible, the other person can concede.

Has anyone ever seen anyone actually concede on the BF?

USB versus Firewire has been going on for, what, 46 pages?  With no end in sight?

Robocop Q Einstein

Thu May 9 02:09:03 2002

And I trolled the first fucking post.

I am immortalized.