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fuX0ringM0r0n

Sat May 18 17:10:18 2002

from PaulHill posted at 2:20 am on May 18, 2002


and soon, access to a system-wide database where you can store pretty much anything

Like the Registry?


No...not like the Registry at all.  The registry stores hardware and software configs and user settings and all that bullshit.  

The system-wide database in OS X stores addresses, users on the network, and pretty much whatever you want to store.  This will no doubt be used by PIM applications, IM clients, and of course, Apple's Address Book application.  With this implementation, Apple has essentially centralized the organization of often accessed information.  

fuX0ringM0r0n

Sat May 18 17:13:42 2002

Uh...what happened to the thread?  Must everything I touch turn to shit?  :)
Jeremy Reimer

Sat May 18 18:14:00 2002

Holy fuck!  I've never seen that happen before.  Poor thread!
fuX0ringM0r0n

Sat May 18 18:52:13 2002

from Jeremy Reimer posted at 11:14 am on May 18, 2002

Holy fuck!  I've never seen that happen before.  Poor thread!

:(

Jeremy Reimer

Sat May 18 18:58:39 2002

It's weird, it's not like I was even doing anything when you posted the message that fux0red the thread.

Probably a bug in ikonboard.  (My version number appears quite outdated, but I've applied so many patches and bugfixes that it really is quite recent)  I'll go wander over to the iB forums and see if there's anything I can do.  

Jeremy Reimer

Sat May 18 19:04:54 2002

I checked the ikonboard files, the rest of the thread is just mysteriously gone, none of the first two pages are there.  Weird.  I'll keep an eye on it.
HitScan

Sat May 18 19:06:47 2002

Probably a bug in ikonboard.

Well, it is written in Perl. ;) :D
Jeremy Reimer

Sat May 18 19:10:26 2002

True, Perl is rather messy, and everything is being handled with text files, so I would imagine the occasional hiccup would be expected.

Of course then you have InfoPop, running on some hyper-uber-advanced SQL Server, or Oracle, or some gigantasaurus thing like that, and they get missing threads all the time.  "InfoBurps" they call them.

Hey, for a total cost of $0, in perpetuity, ikonboard isn't a bad little thing.

HitScan

Sat May 18 19:22:06 2002

Hey, for a total cost of $0, in perpetuity, ikonboard isn't a bad little thing.

I'm actually rather fond of ib. I just find it amazing that someone actually bothered to write a complete bbs with Perl is all. ;) Hate to Perl, y0.
Personally, I plan to integrate a bbs into my ASP.Net site app suite. I hope to combine some of my favorite features of ib and ip and hopefully succeed in not sucking at the same time. :D
AllYorBaseRBelong2Us

Sat May 18 19:26:41 2002

I'm actually rather fond of ib. I just find it amazing that someone actually bothered to write a complete bbs with Perl is all.  Hate to Perl, y0.

I like it too.  Especially seeing how ass some other sites are where you have to navigate one post at a time like the realworldtech forums.

Jeremy Reimer

Sat May 18 19:45:34 2002

Yeah, that one post at a time bullshit is what I hated most about all the other forums I tried before finding iB.  

I'm going out now for a post-Mother's day thingy, but later I'll work on getting some fixes applied.  I want to fix the <code> tags again and try to get individual posts in their own table, so big pictures and non-wrapped text doesn't fux0r up the entire thread.

PaulHill

Sat May 18 20:57:52 2002


The system-wide database in OS X stores addresses, users on the network, and pretty much whatever you want to store.  This will no doubt be used by PIM applications, IM clients, and of course, Apple's Address Book application.  With this implementation, Apple has essentially centralized the organization of often accessed information.  

Oh, Like Active Directory then.

Only per Macintosh, rather than Per Enterprise? Typical Apple.

fuX0ringM0r0n

Sat May 18 21:54:49 2002

from PaulHill posted at 1:57 pm on May 18, 2002


The system-wide database in OS X stores addresses, users on the network, and pretty much whatever you want to store.  This will no doubt be used by PIM applications, IM clients, and of course, Apple's Address Book application.  With this implementation, Apple has essentially centralized the organization of often accessed information.  

Oh, Like Active Directory then.

Only per Macintosh, rather than Per Enterprise? Typical Apple.

No...not like Active Directory either.

DeAthe

Sat May 18 23:02:40 2002

Sounds like .net Passport BS. You know, one stop access for MSM, Hotmail, and all that crap.
harp

Sun May 19 06:55:57 2002

Only per Macintosh, rather than Per Enterprise? Typical Apple.

Apple's not catering to the Enterprise market, douche.

And WTF, what forums just eat threads? This sucks!

PaulHill

Sun May 19 11:54:26 2002


No...not like Active Directory either.

It sounds like Active directory, only per-machine, which is useless. Windows has an address book for ages, which is fully available through OLE automation, just like every other bit of Windows. Clients simply don't use it, and that's for the most commonly used OS on the planet. How likely are they to code apps against an address book of a very, very unsucessful operating system like OS X?

Not likely at all, I'll wager.

AD hardly gets used, and you can access entire enterprise systems through that, querying it like you would a SQL database.

So how about you explain why it isn't? I could do with a laugh.

(Edited by PaulHill at 4:59 am on May 19, 2002)

PaulHill

Sun May 19 11:58:08 2002


Apple's not catering to the Enterprise market, douche.

The WTF is the XServe? A nice flat surface for Maclots to snort coke off of?

(Edited by PaulHill at 4:59 am on May 19, 2002)

Jeremy Reimer

Sun May 19 18:07:46 2002

This is the first thread that has ever gotten "eaten" and I have no idea why.  I'm still working on it.
HitScan

Sun May 19 18:58:12 2002

This is the first thread that has ever gotten "eaten" and I have no idea why.  I'm still working on it.

Have you scoured the files to see if the old posts are still around? (I've not messed with my install of ib to see if that's even a worthwile expenditure of time. I hope like hell this whole thing isn't backed by one or 2 huge ass text files.) it may be an errant index or post id in the threads file. (I really should check the file structure to see if any of this makes any sense... heh.)
HitScan

Sun May 19 19:00:33 2002

speaking of strangeness, the

##
##
##

that is above all of our info is... fascinating. :)
HitScan

Sun May 19 19:01:04 2002

from HitScan posted at 2:00 pm on May 19, 2002

speaking of strangeness, the

##
##
##

that is above all of our info is... fascinating. :)

Err... nevermind. :D

Jeremy Reimer

Sun May 19 19:01:50 2002

The actual text in the thread file is gone, oblivionized.  It might have been a hiccup when the board went to add fm's post, somehow it just saved the last page rather than the whole thread.

I dunno, it's weird.  There's a "Forum fixer" script but I'm afraid to run it, for fear it would fuck up things more.  And it's not like the text can be revived, it's gone.

Jeremy Reimer

Sun May 19 19:02:29 2002

Oh, the ## was me trying to figure out how the fuck to get each post in its own table.  I was trying to comment out some HTML, but it didn't take.. ;)
harp

Sun May 19 19:44:26 2002

The WTF is the XServe? A nice flat surface for Maclots to snort coke off of?

It's targeted at the 4 markets that Apple explicitly stated it is targeting.

(Edited by harp at 3:45 pm on May 19, 2002)

HitScan

Sun May 19 19:49:31 2002

The actual text in the thread file is gone, oblivionized.  It might have been a hiccup when the board went to add fm's post, somehow it just saved the last page rather than the whole thread.

Well that sucks. And, due to the nature of the beast, there's no way to know what caused it, until it happens again and we're all still stumped. A fun position indeed.

I dunno, it's weird.  There's a "Forum fixer" script but I'm afraid to run it, for fear it would fuck up things more.  And it's not like the text can be revived, it's gone.

Ph34r automated "fixer scripts". your hard drive is their playground. ;)
fuX0ringM0r0n

Mon May 20 03:36:59 2002

Actually...ph34r my 133+ h4x0r 5k1llz.
fuX0ringM0r0n

Mon May 20 03:37:47 2002

Hmmm...I thought I did it again...but then I realized the thread just wrapped to a new page.  Whew!  :D