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Debian is abusing me

Xspung

Sun Mar 31 20:48:16 2002

Is anyone in here using Debian Linux? I'm determined to get it working but I'm pretty frustrated so far. It's installed and I've got a bash command line, but when I try to run XF86Setup or XF86Config it will not sync up to my video card no matter wtf I try. Keeps giving me an _X11Socket something or other error. I've checked Google and none of the suggestions I've run across pertaining to that error message have helped.

I've downloaded the latest Linux geforce drivers. But they're all in .rpm and Debian doesn't use rpm. I've tried updating XFree86 to 4.20 so it'll autoconfig properly, since 4.20 supposedly supports the GF3, but Debian tells me that there are incompatible libraries and that those must be updated first.

All I want is to get a simple VGA-based GUI going and hopefully it'll be much easier to manage things from there when I can snag updates from directly from within Linux. It can't be as difficult as it's seems so far, at least that's what I've been told. But this command line BS is getting old really fast.

Any help would be appreciated.

Harbinger

Sun Mar 31 21:18:59 2002

I've recently downloaded 2.2 but I haven't had time to play with them yet.  Now that you've started a thread on it, I'll come back here when/if I have something to offer to you. ;)
Xspung

Sun Mar 31 21:50:30 2002

/me bows to Harbinger

TYVM sir

Riso

Sun Mar 31 22:50:57 2002

FreeBSD >>  l00nix
Xspung

Mon Apr 1 19:52:43 2002

w00t! Got it working after much fudging around with XF86Config. Sure was a massive pain though.
HitScan

Mon Apr 1 20:16:09 2002

you using XFree 3.3.something or 4.2? teh 4 series kicks the 3 series' ass all over. I was especially ecstatic to see the 'XFree86 -configure' switch and it's (orgasmatronic) results. Of course, for weird shit (take Radeon VEs for example...) it still can't do everything. :(
Xspung

Mon Apr 1 22:39:43 2002

I'm not using XFree86 4.20 since Debian didn't like it without some lib updates, which I didn't know how to do at the time. Now that I know how, I'm not going to bother anyway. I'm downloading the RedHat ISOs instead and I'm going to give that shot. After I found out that setting up the DHCP client, so I can use my cable modem to download updates, requires more command line voodoo and may or may not work, I was over it.

Time for me to move on to another distro. I need to get my feet wet before making that headlong cliff dive that is Debian.

Harbinger

Mon Apr 1 22:55:56 2002

from Xspung posted at 2:52 pm on April 1, 2002

w00t! Got it working after much fudging around with XF86Config. Sure was a massive pain though.

What specific fudgery did you have to endure?

Xspung

Mon Apr 1 23:48:08 2002

What specific fudgery did you have to endure?

It refused to work with the SVGA xserver so I had to use the VGA16 one and keep picking a lower and lower res mode until I found one that worked. Oh, that was after I had to manually enter the horizontal and vertical fresh range of my monitor since the choices provided kept giving me an "out of range" message when I'd crank up startx. After I found one that worked and actually got a graphical desktop, the mouse wouldn't work. I couldn't get it to properly detect the USB mouse, so I switched the mouse to the PS/2 port and found out through sheer googling luck that I had to edit the /dev/mouse default to /dev/psaux to make that work. Once I got over that hurdle it wouldn't detect my keyboard, so I had to tell XF86Config NOT to select a standard 101-button US keymapping and then go through a few manual steps to tell it to use a standard 101-button US keymapping. :wtf?:

If I had still had my old K6-2/350 w/ the PCI Riva128 card, the install probably wouldn't have been so difficult. But for a newer system, Debian is not the way to go unless you are well experienced in the ways of Linux voodoo.

OscarWilde

Tue Apr 2 04:57:39 2002

admit you like the abuse because it turns you on!

"I saw her whip and knew that I was in for a night of painfully estatic orgasims. Hurt me bitch. Hurt me like you never have before." -Sadio Masacistor

Xspung

Tue Apr 2 07:59:17 2002

I tried to let RedHat abuse me. so I installed it over Debain. The install went painlessly and I've been playing with Linux using Gnome and KDE (I like KDE much better) for the past few hours. It's like having a new toy.

Now I'm sure that Debian is the OS for the S&M crowd and I will be its whipping boy no longer.

HitScan

Tue Apr 2 13:03:53 2002

Bleck. Go grab a BSD man, their cake to install stuff in. :)

cd /usr/pkgsrc/(I forget :biggrin: )/kde/
make install

You have KDE, and all required libs. Swanky. :)

Only trouble is waiting for the thing to get updated. (I don't think KDE 3 is in there yet, which is so much better than 2.2, but you can always go to the site and get it yourself if the pkgsrc version is too old.)

Xspung

Tue Apr 2 13:22:53 2002

Eh, I'll stick with RedHat for now because...well...it's working and my ansu is still sore from Debian. After I take the training wheels off this Linux bike, then I can start figuring out how I really want to ride it.
Riso

Tue Apr 2 15:58:04 2002

from HitScan posted at 2:03 pm on April 2, 2002

Bleck. Go grab a BSD man, their cake to install stuff in. :)

cd /usr/pkgsrc/(I forget :biggrin: )/kde/
make install

You have KDE, and all required libs. Swanky. :)

It's easier to /stand/sysinstall and install xfree and kde from there.

Riso

Tue Apr 2 16:00:30 2002

from Xspung posted at 2:22 pm on April 2, 2002

Eh, I'll stick with RedHat for now because...well...it's working and my ansu is still sore from Debian. After I take the training wheels off this Linux bike, then I can start figuring out how I really want to ride it.

for training, use mandrake.
filthy french stuff, yes, but its made for morons.

Xspung

Tue Apr 2 17:35:35 2002

for training, use mandrake.

That was my first choice but I couldn't find a site that would feed me the ISOs at anything approaching a realistic transfer rate. It took quite a bit of hunting to find a decent FTP site for the RH ISOs.

filthy french stuff, yes, but its made for morons.

Gee, I'm glad I'm not French, or I might take offense at that statement. :)