Thu Mar 21 11:59:21 2002

CPU Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 1.60 GHz (w/256KB)
Chipset Intel 845 Chipset
Memory 256 MB SDRAM (PC133)
Hard Drive 40 GB HDD
Optical Drives Built-in 16x Max. CD-RW Drive; 3.5" 1.44MB FDD
Video nVidia TNT2 M64 AGP with 32MB
Sound AC '97 Audio
Modem 56K* ITU v.92 ready Fax/Modem
Network 10/100Mbps built-in Ethernet
Ports/Other 4 USB ports (2 on front), 1 Serial, 1 Parallel, 2 PS/2, Audio In & Out, Midi/Game port, Mic-In & Head Phone jack on front
Peripherals Keyboard, Wheel Mouse, Premium Speakers

CPU: P4 1.6GHz (Willamette). For a less-than-$700 computer, this is fine. Unfortunately, they put it on an i845 SDRAM board, which knocks it down to P4 1.2GHz or less on RDRAM. Which makes it less decent.

The 40GB hard drive is probably 5400rpm or a crappy 7200rpm.

nVidia TNT2 M64 AGP with 32MB

[color=red][size=100]WHY THE FUCK IS THIS OLDER THAN METHUSELA OR HOWEVER THE FUCK THAT'S SPELLED TECHNOLOGY STILL AVAILABLE? AND WHY DO OEM'S STILL USE IT? THIS THING IS LESS THAN HALF THE SPEED OF AN ORIGINAL GeForce SDR WHICH IS LIKE 7 GENERATIONS OLD! FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK! THIS IS WHY OEM'S MUST BE DESTROYED.[/size][/color]

All else are standard who-gives-a-fuck parts.

Model T4165: $799*

CPU Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 1.60 GHz (w/256KB)
Chipset Intel 845 Chipset
Memory 256 MB SDRAM (PC133)
Hard Drive 60 GB HDD
Optical Drives Built-in 16x Max. DVD Drive; 16x Max. CD-RW Drive; 3.5" 1.44MB FDD
Video nVidia TNT2 M64 AGP with 32MB
Sound AC '97 Audio
Modem 56K* ITU v.92 ready Fax/Modem
Network 10/100Mbps built-in Ethernet
Ports/Other 4 USB ports (2 on front), 1 Serial, 1 Parallel, 2 PS/2, Audio In & Out, Midi/Game port, Mic-In & Head Phone jack on front
Peripherals Keyboard, Wheel Mouse, Premium Speakers

Same proc with same crappy SDRAM. [color=red]SAME FUCKING LOUSY GRAPHICS CARD[/color]. What was inexcusable on a $700 computer is 10,000 times more so on an $800 computer. I didn't think nVidia still made videochips that damn old. Even a GeForce2 MX 400 would be several orders of magnitude better. And those are dirt cheap. EMachines can burn in jigoku** for all I care. Fuck them.

Model T4200: $999*

CPU Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 2 GHz (w/512KB)
Chipset Intel 845 Chipset
Memory 256 MB SDRAM (PC133)
Hard Drive 60 GB HDD
Optical Drives Built-in 16x Max. CD-RW Drive; 3.5" 1.44MB FDD
Video nVidia TNT2 M64 AGP with 32MB
Sound AC '97 Audio
Modem 56K* ITU v.92 ready Fax/Modem
Network 10/100Mbps built-in Ethernet
Ports/Other 4 USB ports (2 on front), 1 Serial, 1 Parallel, 2 PS/2, Audio In & Out, Midi/Game port, Mic-In & Head Phone jack on front
Peripherals Keyboard, Wheel Mouse, Premium Speakers

Northwood 2GHz with PC133 SDRAM. EMachines: suck my ass chowder. [color=red]SAME FUCKING LOUSY GRAPHICS CARD[/color]

Oh, and guess what:

High-performance nVidia TNT2 video card.

They have the gall to say this? They do.

EMachines: Fuck you and everything you stand for.

Anyone who buys an EMachine officially gives up the right to be termed sentient, because they obviously aren't.

This has been an IG rant.

*: After mail-in rebate. No monitor.
**: Japanese for Hell

Thu Mar 21 12:10:09 2002

They're shit, but people buy them.

People are stupid.

People are stupid.

You can't fix people.

You can't fix stupidity.

Relax, you're not stupid.

Thu Mar 21 13:16:45 2002

Remember: Silly is a state of mind,
Stupid is a way of life.

Thu Mar 21 14:21:32 2002

Thu Mar 21 15:29:27 2002

Thu Mar 21 16:40:12 2002

...to the unwashed computer-buying masses.

Thu Mar 21 23:24:11 2002

Fri Mar 22 06:28:08 2002

I guess maybe the eMachines are catering to the business market.

You wanna complain about graphics cards try the intel video chip sets that have no memory and use the main memory via AGP. Thats what i have on my Sony Vaio laptop. :(

Fri Mar 22 17:37:51 2002

the intel video chip sets that have no memory and use the main memory via AGP

Fri Mar 22 18:19:51 2002

I guess maybe the eMachines are catering to the business market.

No, they're catering to the "really cheap" market.  

<gross overgeneralization> Any company that purchased eMachines computers for the office, must not be much of a business at all. </gross overgeneralization>

That said, I have seen eMachines in a few businesses, but these places have had no more than 5-10 people, max.  So no, I don't agree that eMachines is catering to businesses. ;)

Fri Mar 22 18:38:11 2002

Fri Mar 22 19:17:39 2002

from DuffMan posted at 1:38 pm on Mar. 22, 2002

What pisses me off is that its hard to find good cheap (sub $1000) boxes for businesses with good hard drives. For most business applications, I couldnt care less whether it has an Athlon, Pentium 3, Pentium 4 or celeron, as long as it has a fast hard drive and enough memory.

By "good" do you mean by brand, or just 7200rpm?

For general business use, I haven't had too many people complain to me about drive speed in particular, but for me personally, I want 7200 or faster. :evilgrin:  For my development guys, it's nothing less than 7200 but for people in legal/accounting/admin assistants, they wouldn't know the difference.

How does [url=http://www.insight.com/web/apps/productpresentation/index.php?product_id=HPA7751S] this box[/url] sound?  1.2GHz Celly, 128MB RAM, 30GB HD (7200!!!), 48x CD, NIC, i815 video w/ dedicated RAM, and it's $499.  The only downer to me is that it ships with 98; but since we have corp licenses for 2K and now some for XP, we really don't care. ;)  BTW, it also has an AGP slot.

Fri Mar 22 19:28:18 2002

I wonder what brand HD is in that HP.

Fri Mar 22 20:07:03 2002

from DuffMan posted at 2:28 pm on Mar. 22, 2002

Name brand and 7200 preferably. And some 7200 drives are pretty slow.

I wonder what brand HD is in that HP.

I'm going to extrapolate (OK, guess) that they use WD drives.  About 1.5 years ago I helped some friends start up a new business, and they bought 8-10 HP Vectras kinda like these.  I set them up and ISTR that they had WD drives.  Or I could've been smoking the bad crack that day -- if I get there within the next week or so, I'll crack one open for verification.

For myself, I had been using IBM Deskstars but the recent *ahem* issues have made me wary.  I recently bought some WDs to set up a RAID array, and thusfar I've been satisfied with them.