Sat Mar 9 03:08:56 2002
This little toy is FUN... I've never, ever, ever had a laptop before, and it's really cool. Screw the Dark side/Light side, I'm BOTH now!! Supremely powerful!!! Muahahahahahaaa!!!!
Now I'm going to post this and see if it shows up on the PC side... hee hee
PHEAR ME!!
(incidentally this thing defaulted to booting into OS 9.2, I nearly threw up all over it, but it was easy to switch to OSX. How could people ever use OS < X?? I mean, really.
OK, well, all done, time to post!
Sat Mar 9 03:12:17 2002
It's beyond me.
Anyway, laptops all suck, it's just a question of degree.
Sat Mar 9 03:12:22 2002
That's cool JR, I'm far too poor to afford something like that :(
I was considering an iBook, but i don't know....
Sat Mar 9 03:30:37 2002
Sat Mar 9 04:35:08 2002
from DrPizza posted at 10:12 pm on Mar. 8, 2002
How could anyone use something with such a low resolution screen?It's beyond me.
Agreed, wholeheartedly. And then some. On a bad day, my desktop res is 1152x864; my normal rez is 1280x1024. When I'm using a 1024x768 laptop, I feel too confined.
If my employer gets me a new laptop, it's gotta have at least XGA resolution. And since he also cares about screen real estate, I'm sure he can empathize.
Anyway, laptops all suck, it's just a question of degree.
Too true.
Sat Mar 9 05:46:37 2002
Works for me though. :)
So, what *can* you do with that ibook?
Sat Mar 9 07:16:55 2002
I might, and this is a big might, look into programming for Cocoa if it's as easy as everyone says.
Sat Mar 9 11:25:36 2002
Sat Mar 9 14:05:08 2002
This is why it has a gigabyte of memory. Which still isn't enough....
Sat Mar 9 15:59:03 2002
This is why it has a gigabyte of memory. Which still isn't enough....
64bit lappies anyone?
Sat Mar 9 15:59:15 2002
I used to hook my 540 c up to an external scsi hard drive at home, and that made a huge difference, since I booted from it.
You might consider this: Buy a pci card that allows ultra wide or better speeds. Connect a Cheetah X 15 to the laptop, and at home, use it as a hard drive for booting.
Don't know if this works under OS X, but under 9, it was a piece of cake.
Otherwise, laptop processor speeds are pretty much irrelevant, unless you are doing some sort of seti work, that is only processor functions, and no hard drive work.
Another great thing about 9 was, and is, you can turn virtual memory off, if you have enough memory.
The mac os is pretty much stable under such conditions, provided you aren't running a program like Unreal, that has to have a pagefile.
For school, I would reduce processor speed, shut the hard drive down, create a ram disk, store all working documents on the ram disk, and disable the pagefile. This gave me blinding speed, no swapping, and very good battery life.
gs
Sat Mar 9 17:47:04 2002
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Sat Mar 9 20:43:53 2002
Count me in as agreeing with Socrates (for once).
Sat Mar 9 20:48:12 2002
from Imitation Gruel posted at 3:42 pm on Mar. 9, 2002
I shouldn't and shall not buy a laptop as I can pretty well guarantee it would be getting replaced within ~7 days because I accidentally destroyed it.
Heh, I've worked with lotsa people like you. :biggrin:
Even though I'm not exactly easy on my laptop, I'm not brutal either. My laptop would look brand new if not for the fact that I'm the second owner; any marks or mars aren't mine. Heck, the AC adapter's cable still has kinks in it. ;) After discussing such phenomena with others I've worked with, we attributed it to being appreciative of the technology -- it ain't a Vtech kiddie laptop and it's not a dachsund to be kicked around.
Sat Mar 9 20:54:26 2002
from Imitation Gruel posted at 3:43 pm on Mar. 9, 2002
Oh, and I won't buy one until they have 7200+ rpm hard drives, if I ever do. I've used new lappies with GHz+ procs and only 5400rpm hard drives and they just crawl as far as I'm concerned.
You sure they had 5400 rpm drives? I've been looking to get one to upgrade my laptop, and they're rather hard to find. Toshiba themselves just announced their own last month, and I haven't found any shipping just yet. A quick search on PriceWatch only revealed ones from IBM -- and they were high capacity and extremely high-priced.
I'd be more inclined to think that the laptops you tried had standard 4200 rpm drives, but if they really did have 5400 drives I'd like to know which models (laptops & drives) they were. This is beginning to be more important to our developers.
Sat Mar 9 21:36:05 2002
I'd like to know which models (laptops & drives) they were.
48GB 5400rpm IBM Travelstar, in a Dell Inspiron 8100 a roommate had. He allowed me to use it, just to get the feel of a highend laptop. It had a 1GHz PIII-M, 512MB of RAM and I believe a 16MB GeForce2 Go. I've used desktop computers with worse specs than that which *felt* far faster because of SCSI and SCSI RAID. I don't think Dell uses this hard drive anymore.
Sat Mar 9 22:35:57 2002
Does your roomie still have that laptop? It certainly has the potential to be a desktop replacement, if it fits the user's needs.
Sun Mar 10 01:51:05 2002
Maybe when i get my old pentium 1something laptop back from my cousin in france, I'll use it and put beos on it or something crazy like that.
Sun Mar 10 03:03:00 2002
Sun Mar 10 03:10:08 2002
Mmm, maybe not ;)
Sun Mar 10 04:36:02 2002
Again, you want to rock? Get a remote, uw, or LVD scsi drive, and boot from that.
I'm actually jazzed that JR is becoming multi-platform.
Soon, perhaps, he will stop making all those assinine comments he has made for years, about macs.
That, of course, until apple fucks him the first time...
S
Sun Mar 10 04:55:40 2002
from what i hear at the mac achia performance on low end macs are pretty bad at times.
me has a dualie G4/533 with 1.2gig and os x installed on a 7200rpm 90gig drive, so performance on my mac is obviously going to be very good.
get mozilla 0.9.8 or 0.9.9 macho build. its takes a wee bit of time to start up although i'm curious to how long it takes on your ibook, but rendering websites is tons faster. however mozilla still has some kinks here and there, like memory hogging that can effect the performance of your ibook over time. Or mozilla just stalls after an hour of use. 0.9.9 seems much more well behaved then 0.9.8 in that area but not so much so.
so you gonna get an iPod?
oh did you get your anti-RDF pills from the doc before the purchase? you do know if you don't take them over time the steve jobs virus takes over yer mind... something akin to mad cow disease...
me takes a 4 pills a day because me dualie has quite a strong ammount of RDF from it... at days i can't help but wanna do stuff with teh glory hole.
Sun Mar 10 05:02:40 2002
incase you don't know, in IE, to switch between IE windows with your keyboard do:
hold command down, and then hit the '~' key. This switches to the next window and so on.
But on mozilla its 'command 1' but unfortunately i can't seem to find a way to switch beween tabs with my keyboard.
(Edited by OscarWilde at 12:03 pm on Mar. 10, 2002)
Sun Mar 10 05:05:42 2002
Sun Mar 10 05:10:37 2002
These guys are a great source of info on macs.
They make the ARS forum look, well, it could be better....
s
Sun Mar 10 05:13:09 2002
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Sun Mar 10 05:20:01 2002
The 9600 still remains quite the awesome computer.
Indeed!
i think Apple should make another machine like this using a bigger case and with at 5 or 6 slots. make a good server (if the PPC wasn't such a slow server chip :cheesy:)
Sun Mar 10 05:25:05 2002
And I wouldn't even need to arise from bed to post on OSY.
Sun Mar 10 05:27:09 2002
Sun Mar 10 06:08:52 2002
what is this nifty sleep function you guys are going on about?
The iBook seems to do pretty well in suspend as far as battery life is concerned.
Sun Mar 10 06:11:49 2002
Sun Mar 10 06:27:02 2002
I'd post any ideas you have about upgrading with them.
A quantum LM for cheap, or a Seagate Cheetah, on a LVD, or faster card, comes to mind.
Seems to me the chipset is limited to around 50 mb/sec, but, I could be wrong.
Ask the gurus about it, or, they could help you sell it.
I'm not sure if OS X works on the 9600?
gs
Mon Mar 11 12:18:04 2002
Soon, perhaps, he will stop making all those assinine comments he has made for years, about macs.That, of course, until apple fucks him the first time...
In Jeremy's defense, I haven't seen him troll on BF in ages. IMO, he's probably one of the fairest posters on BF, myself included.
BTW, Jeremy, *I* use 9.0.4 on my iFruit. ;)
Then again, your iBook is faster than my 400mhz G3/64 mb PC.....
M.
Mon Mar 11 16:01:37 2002
Then again, your iBook is faster than my 400mhz G3/64 mb PC.....
<tease Madan mode>Not in Quake. <tease madan mode>
:cheesy:
Mon Mar 11 16:04:59 2002
every damn time i post and return to the main page i see you posted in another thread!!!
I shall post as whorish as you are right now!
phear me oh mighty AYB, oh yes phear me indeed!!!!
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Mon Mar 11 16:16:31 2002
don't you wanna play with me?
:(
Mon Mar 11 16:19:01 2002
My windshield is teh broke :(
and so Is I
Mon Mar 11 16:28:36 2002
well me dances naked around usb hockey puck mouse praying to steve jobs that you get a job...
you have been given quite the image huh?
Mon Mar 11 16:39:16 2002
well me dances naked around usb hockey puck mouse praying to steve jobs that you get a job...
AYB thinks that the pretty Asian Girl OW likes should join him in teh festivities :)