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Ok...repeat after me....

Madan

Tue Feb 26 23:13:57 2002

"Photoshop is *not* good enough for "everything" in dtp."

QuarkXpress is also necessary.

Come on, say it. SAY IT!

Good. How I would kill for Quark right about now.

M.

(Edited by Madan at 3:15 pm on Feb. 26, 2002)

AllYorBaseRBelong2Us

Tue Feb 26 23:26:09 2002

what you say?
Madan

Tue Feb 26 23:28:16 2002

Go to www.heraldstore.com/wor.html

to see the refitting of the web site I'm making.

It's *trying* to look like a newspaper but a lot of the stuff would be easier to build in Quark and to later slice in PS.

M.

AllYorBaseRBelong2Us

Tue Feb 26 23:41:44 2002

Where's your Phish?
Madan

Tue Feb 26 23:44:01 2002

:(

Phish is goners.


You think I should find a way to insert the fish ala mascot?

I had to re-do the page because my bosses cut so many services out of the HeraldStore(business has been anemic) that the front page links were inaccurate.

Should I include the fish somewhere? Mmmm...Maybe I will...

M.

(Edited by Madan at 3:44 pm on Feb. 26, 2002)

HitScan

Tue Feb 26 23:58:47 2002

Just a couple of things from a rank amatuer :biggrin: :

I hate, hate, hate it when sites use a centered 200px table or whatnot to limit the site size. I'm all about dynamic. Big window, wide site. Small window, narrow site. Granted, it requires more effort in the design and whatnot, but a few <nobr> tags will help you out.

One of my greatest pet peaves are sites made almost wholly of images. Text is text. I like text. Images are for pictures, and text with an uncommon font or that has been hand drawn. I know you're still doing a work in progress, but I figured I'd let you know what came to me as I checked it out. (Aren't I thoughtful? :biggrin: )

I do like the direction you're headed though, should be an interesting layout.

Madan

Wed Feb 27 00:07:16 2002

hit...

I hate, hate, hate it when sites use a centered 200px table or whatnot to limit the site size. I'm all about dynamic.

You're right. Check out www.heraldstore.com and you'll see that I did have a dynamic layout site.

Can I do it this time? No.

A newspaper doesn't grow/shrink.

Many versions of Netscape don't recognize empty tables with background colors unless they have a nested table that has a bgcolor itself(strange, but true).

I can't resize an image: I.e. the main banner.

I can't resize the body text in the page which is an IMAGE. Why did I make it an image? Afterall, it takes up more space, doesn't flow in table shape and can't be read by search spiders? Simple, because the page doesn't work with left/right aligned text and, because the text had to be justified, my only options were CSS(which still don't work properly with many browsers) or <p align="justify" which doesn't work properly with IE3=> and Netscape 4=>.  If I built a dynamic site, I'd have all the images in the middle clustered and it wouldn't look like a newspaper.

One of my greatest pet peaves are sites made almost wholly of images. Text is text. I like text. Images are for pictures, and text with an uncommon font or that has been hand drawn.

Two reasons why the site is going to be 90% images:

A. We specialize in selling images.
B. My images are small gifs/jpegs and the landing page will be under 50k.

I know you're still doing a work in progress, but I figured I'd let you know what came to me as I checked it out. (Aren't I thoughtful?  )

I do like the direction you're headed though, should be an interesting layout.

Hope that clears up some of the reasons why I did what I did.

Basically, I added text links and photo link replicates. This way, non-photo browsers, rational users(like you) and photo-lovers(like the majority) can all at least *use* the site.

Still any suggestions are always taken with much eagerness.

M.

(Edited by Madan at 4:18 pm on Feb. 26, 2002)

Jeremy Reimer

Thu Feb 28 02:49:45 2002

Holy Broken Links Batman!

All the fish bubbles lead to "page not found".

Perhaps that is why business is so bad?

AllYorBaseRBelong2Us

Thu Feb 28 04:11:27 2002

Phish is goners.

:( :( :( :(

I propose we designate Madan as OSY's official Webpage affuendo.

Perhaps he can assist Jeremy with future layouts and such :)