Wed Jan 30 22:23:26 2002

:evilgrin:

Wed Jan 30 22:24:13 2002

Wed Jan 30 22:26:46 2002

Who's IceStorm? Someone on Ars?

CPU&Mobo Tech Moderator.

(Edited by Imitation Gruel at 2:27 pm on Jan. 30, 2002)

Wed Jan 30 22:29:25 2002

Maybe more.

Wed Jan 30 23:00:44 2002

Thu Jan 31 13:51:00 2002

Thu Jan 31 19:53:52 2002

Icestorm has registered, but hasn't posted as of yet.

Much like The_Hitman. He registered a while ago but has never used his account, far as I remember. Not that I want him here to do so.

Thu Jan 31 20:01:56 2002

from Imitation Gruel posted at 2:53 pm on Jan. 31, 2002

Icestorm has registered, but hasn't posted as of yet.

Much like The_Hitman. He registered a while ago but has never used his account, far as I remember. Not that I want him here to do so.

Here, here.  Can't say his posts at Ars provide much positive contribution; I wouldn't want him fouling these waters as well.   :hmmm:

Thu Jan 31 21:26:33 2002

Warning: [color=red]RAVING ZEALOT[/color]

Thu Jan 31 21:59:23 2002

Thu Jan 31 22:02:58 2002

NPN (oka: "Dumb Venture")
or
prowlerguy ("The email avenger")
or
BFG10k ( "A 500 Cely *CAN* spank a G4 500!!")
or the worst troll of all: Venture.("your computer sux because your mic isn't as good as that of a production studio!")

But that's just me.

M.

(Edited by Madan at 2:05 pm on Jan. 31, 2002)

Thu Jan 31 22:08:15 2002

Well, I gots ta prepare my 3000th post post.

Thu Jan 31 22:23:52 2002

Well, I gots ta prepare my 3000th post post.

[color=red][font=papyrus][size=100]INDEED !![/size][/font][/color]

And then your 3001st post, which will make you OSY's first Admiral.

Thu Jan 31 22:42:28 2002

Besides, this is OSY. You're *supposed* to be loud here. Wiout you and IG and Wilde, this place would be a virtual graveyard.

Venture is different. He's nasty and a troll.

BTW, I'm wondering what you're going to do on you 3000th post. It's gotta be special, no?

You're not going to pull a MWSF02 on us, are you AYB?

M.

Thu Jan 31 23:02:17 2002

Wiout you and IG and Wilde, this place would be a virtual graveyard.

Damn right. Just from anecdotal observations, I'd estimate that the three of us account for 50% or more of the posts in any given week.

Venture is different. He's nasty and a troll.

He's also (to a frothing-at-mouth Mac hater like me) at times very very funny.

Thu Jan 31 23:13:57 2002

Thu Jan 31 23:16:30 2002

And hold on to your bobbysocks, he's a Mac user!

*gasp*

Read up and taste the glory of the "non-troll debate"

http://arstechnica.infopop.net/OpenTopic/page?q=Y&a=tpc&s=50009562&f=8300945231&m=3360953743&p=3

M.

Thu Jan 31 23:26:25 2002

DigitalFury.
IllglWpns.
BadAndy.
PeterB.
MrNSX
MWNH
Paul

I've just figured it out.
I'm a fucking fraud. I am. I AM a troll.

Eyerrrrrgh. :dot:

M.

(Edited by Madan at 3:28 pm on Jan. 31, 2002)

(Edited by Madan at 3:29 pm on Jan. 31, 2002)

(Edited by Madan at 3:29 pm on Jan. 31, 2002)

Thu Jan 31 23:44:27 2002

You're a what now?

How... why... what.... erm, huh?

Fri Feb 1 02:55:31 2002

I'll swing by and pick him up for beers and football.

Fri Feb 1 03:17:04 2002

I'm just as sick of macusers spouting urban myths as i am of pc users who think they are 1337 because they can stick a DIMM in their motherboard so they are qualified at making statements about computer architecture. :rolleyes:

Venture finally proved him self a moron when he said Apple was the bad guy and not motorola because Apple could not provide the sales to support the PPC development. :rolleyes:
what an idiot!

Does he even know what he's talking about?

NOOO!!!!!!

The deal is Apple is NOT MOTOROLA'S BIGGEST CUSTOMER! Apple doesn't even account for the bulk of Mot's PPC sales. Its the embedded industry.

Then the fucking bullshit, motorola doesn't stress on higher mhz because it doesn't need to.

Again BS!!!!

The embedded market is very competitive and Motorola needs to ramp up speeds to meet the demands of its customers that DO REQUIRE faster chips.

Then there is the really annoying mac apologist myth that IBM can automagically increase speeds with a flick of a button but is holding back because Apple doesn't want them too. Not even fucking true. With the exception of some incidents (Taiwan earthquake that level a Mot factory that was handling some of the processor fabs) Mot has consistently released faster chips that IMB has (G4 vs. G3 that is).

So how am i qualified to say such a thing when i'm not even an EE my self nor do i work in the industry.

Well thats because I make the effort to understand and pay attention to those that do. Theres a guy at xlr8yourmac who is an electronics engineer who deals with PPC and the embedded market. He deals with CPU's from Mot on a daily basis. ITS HIS JOB. So i'm assuming he'd know what he's talking about.

Then you have BadAndy over at ars who confirmed what the guy at xlr8yourmac has been saying and he to obviously has a lot of knowledge.

Thats my biggest gripe with the internet. Its now become a medium of armchair scientist and specialist who actually have no training or education background in the field that are 'reporting' on.

Its becoming harder and harder to sperate the good info from the bad. THe only way now is to look at the background of the authors.

This by the way reflects how I feel about arstechnica.

Apparently even DF as much as he knows about computer archiecture fails to have real world experience that can make a difference in the conclusion. There was a guy who for a living worked at different fabs who made a point of this.

I respect DF don't get me wrong, but it was an interesting 'eye opener' to the difference between being educated in the area and having a lifetime of experience in that area.

wow!

This is why I like OSY. People here are at least open about what they know, what they don't know and who they are.

aawwww!!!

/me gives everyone here a hug
:cheesy:

Fri Feb 1 06:58:14 2002

Fri Feb 1 07:03:11 2002

Apparently, the graphic you linked to wasn't yours or on a site you run. It went from being a BS Meter to being a "stealing bandwidth is bad, m'kay" graphic, with a rather nasty picture behind the text...

Fri Feb 1 07:14:30 2002

Resistance is futile.

Fri Feb 1 07:16:20 2002

Fri Feb 1 07:18:33 2002

Fri Feb 1 16:46:58 2002

from IceStorm posted at 2:03 am on Feb. 1, 2002

I don't see why you didn't just mail and ask me what I edited...

Apparently, the graphic you linked to wasn't yours or on a site you run. It went from being a BS Meter to being a "stealing bandwidth is bad, m'kay" graphic, with a rather nasty picture behind the text...

He was trying to set up a blind date for me.

With you.

Smooch.

Fri Feb 1 17:06:43 2002

BadAndy kicks SOME MAJOR ASS!!! Damn that guys knows his shit. Its nice to have someone that knows so much about the mac platform.

I actually have been following his and Illegl's discussion. you're right, he does know his PPC but has made several mistakes concerning the x86.  To tell you the truth, he does posses a lot of knowledge but strikes me as a bit of a PPC fanboy from my first impressions.

Fri Feb 1 17:08:50 2002

me gives everyone here a hug

just don't pinch me bum! :cheesy:

Fri Feb 1 19:01:05 2002

Fri Feb 1 19:45:27 2002

has alpha actually posted here, or just registered?

Posted. Not many times (<10 IIRC) but still...

Fri Feb 1 19:58:31 2002

When OW comes visit me, i will take him out for breakfast, then to the local University to scope out teh boobies.

Fri Feb 1 23:04:35 2002

anotherthing,

Perhaps the most knowledgable Computer Architecture guy in the forum is [url=http://arstechnica.infopop.net/OpenTopic/page?a=mprf&s=50009562&ignore=&u=648091146]Paul DeMone[/url]

He sometimes gives detailed and insightfull writings on the inside doings of the MPU industry on www.realworldtech.com

His stuff is very good reading. :)

He stays pretty much in the CPU Tech forum.

I'm glad you are so interested in Tagnuts.  Tagnuts == Teh Win!

Sat Feb 2 00:28:58 2002

Perhaps the most knowledgable Computer Architecture guy in the forum is Paul DeMone

Indeed. It's a very very wonderful thing that Mr. DeMone graces ArsTechnica with his knowledge. A first-class, top-level resource, he is.

He sometimes gives detailed and insightfull writings on the inside doings of the MPU industry on http://www.realworldtech.com

The Silicon Insider column. I think I've read pretty much all of them. Most of them gave me a doubleplusbig headache from all the CPU tagnutry therein.